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May 3, 2018 1:58 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
I had a R. 'Lady Emma Hamilton' just up and die on me this year. I suppose it may just not have wintered for one reason or another. It had no particular problem last growing season (no bugs or obvious disease) but is dead and brittle with no new growth whatsoever. I only have one rose, it's in my herb garden in the cosmetic section. I strip the petals and use them in lotions and such. I just bought a replacement rose, R. 'Gypsy Boy' and a bit concerned about planting it in the same spot. I don't have a lot of wiggle room as this section is fairly small 3'x6'. Should I worry about this? Perhaps I should dig out the soil and replace with fresh?
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May 3, 2018 5:57 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I think it will be okay in the same place. I have no idea why some of my roses die, but I've never had a spot that seemed to be cursed to the point of killing its roses.
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May 4, 2018 12:04 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
I have the same experience and nearly the same advice, FWIW.

I believe that roses produce and release into the soil growth inhibitors. A large, well established rose might leave behind some of these and retard growth of a new rose. I do usually try to mix in at least 50% new soil - mostly soil ammendments. But even this it may not be necessary if the previous rose was not large and well established and if the soil is fertile, loose, and moderately water retentive.
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May 4, 2018 3:05 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Keeper of Poultry I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Keeps Horses
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When a rose dies here, I frequently just plant another right next to it - whereupon the "dead" rose revives and causes a crowding situation. Fortunately such things don't really bother me: I like the wild rose-hedge look.
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May 4, 2018 5:08 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
Porkpal, one day I would like to see your jungle garden. Sounds like the kind of tangle that definitely does not look over-preened.
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
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May 4, 2018 5:52 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Keeper of Poultry I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Keeps Horses
Roses Plant Identifier Farmer Raises cows Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
Under-pruned, never over-preened - rather free spirited (or unruly, if you will.)
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