Roses forum→Replanting in same spot?

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Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Bonehead
May 3, 2018 1:58 PM CST
I had a R. 'Lady Emma Hamilton' just up and die on me this year. I suppose it may just not have wintered for one reason or another. It had no particular problem last growing season (no bugs or obvious disease) but is dead and brittle with no new growth whatsoever. I only have one rose, it's in my herb garden in the cosmetic section. I strip the petals and use them in lotions and such. I just bought a replacement rose, R. 'Gypsy Boy' and a bit concerned about planting it in the same spot. I don't have a lot of wiggle room as this section is fairly small 3'x6'. Should I worry about this? Perhaps I should dig out the soil and replace with fresh?
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Keeps Horses I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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porkpal
May 3, 2018 5:57 PM CST
I think it will be okay in the same place. I have no idea why some of my roses die, but I've never had a spot that seemed to be cursed to the point of killing its roses.
Porkpal
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses Irises Lilies
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Steve812
May 4, 2018 12:04 PM CST
I have the same experience and nearly the same advice, FWIW.

I believe that roses produce and release into the soil growth inhibitors. A large, well established rose might leave behind some of these and retard growth of a new rose. I do usually try to mix in at least 50% new soil - mostly soil ammendments. But even this it may not be necessary if the previous rose was not large and well established and if the soil is fertile, loose, and moderately water retentive.
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Keeps Horses I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Plant Identifier Raises cows Roses Farmer Celebrating Gardening: 2015
porkpal
May 4, 2018 3:05 PM CST
When a rose dies here, I frequently just plant another right next to it - whereupon the "dead" rose revives and causes a crowding situation. Fortunately such things don't really bother me: I like the wild rose-hedge look.
Porkpal
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses Irises Lilies
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Steve812
May 4, 2018 5:08 PM CST
Porkpal, one day I would like to see your jungle garden. Sounds like the kind of tangle that definitely does not look over-preened.
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Keeps Horses I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Plant Identifier Raises cows Roses Farmer Celebrating Gardening: 2015
porkpal
May 4, 2018 5:52 PM CST
Under-pruned, never over-preened - rather free spirited (or unruly, if you will.)
Porkpal

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