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Feb 23, 2010 3:45 PM CST
|Just wanted to say that I received my newest Park Seed print catalog, and on page 66-67 is a VERY useful , highly detailed guide to starting seeds indoors, indexed by seed name and class. The Bloom Time, Germination Time, and Culture for starting seeds are all listed for what looks like almost 200 seeds, with highly detailed info--just perfect for us seed-starting nerds!! |
If you don't have the print catalog, you can see this two-page spread on-line at:
Just go to the Big Seed catalog 2010, click on it and follow along to page 66-67. I find it is very helpful to click on Full Screen and enlarge it further so my, ahem, mature eyes can read it.
Maybe people have already seen this--but I was excited to find it!
(I'm going to post this on the WS forum too, because the index gives a detailed breakdown of seeds that require stratification, chilling, or are genetically programmed to handle winter sowing well.)
Feb 23, 2010 3:54 PM CST
|Yes, Emily, that is a nice reference. I don't pay much attention to those little details for wintersowing because I can't control Mother Nature and what she does. But for indoors, it's very good.|
Chicago, near the lake
Feb 26, 2010 2:47 PM CST
|Yes, that's a useful and quick guide! I also love the germination info in Stokes Seeds catalog. It gives both indoor and outdoor planting times as well as temperatures and days to germination for gardeners in zones 4 through 6 or so (cooler zones) and all kinds of little tricks. It's as much my planting bible as Clothiers Walk and Talk and Deno's books. It's not on line but a free catalog will be sent if one goes to Stokeseeds.com or calls 1-800-396-9238. |
Feb 26, 2010 4:40 PM CST
|Thank you, Tom, for the good suggestion of the Stokes Seeds catalog. I have ordered one for myself! Couldn't believe that I didn't already have one, since I receive scores of catalogs due to extensive roving through and ordering from seed catalogs. But I didn't, so I'm glad to be on the track of what sounds like a good reference tool.|
Karen, you are so right! The good thing about WS is that one doesn't have to be in charge--Mother Nature, it's all in your capable hands! I liked the Park Seed chart because it gave me hints about which seeds are especially suitable for the WS method and why. But this isn't rocket science--there are plenty of lists available-- and I do admit that the chart was a bit trying on the eyes ! ;-)
Mar 7, 2010 4:27 PM CST
|T&M has a nice chart/planting guide like that, too. I forgot I had it but unearthed it today as I dug through my seed box.|
Name: Gloria Gerritz
Jun 9, 2010 11:26 AM CST
|I started out gardening 30+ years ago and religiously used the Park's Seed germination chart. Then I found others and forgot about it. However, it is wonderful and I will now use it again.|
Winter sowing makes things easier; but last year we had snow on the ground for 90 days right through the putting out for cold treatment. This
spring and summer I am using lights to start my perennials for next year.
I am just nuts about seeds.
Jul 22, 2010 1:34 AM CST
|i'm here to learn. but if yall are talking about seeds somewhere else tell me where to go.|
Jul 22, 2010 1:37 PM CST
|What is it you're interested in, mamajack? Direct sowing, wintersowing, growing under lights?|
Jul 22, 2010 10:09 PM CST
|i am interested in wintersowing and sowing seeds outside here in pots this summer. i am new to seeds and have mixed success. so anything i can learn is what i want to know.|
Jul 23, 2010 4:43 AM CST
|Have you found our wintersowing forum?|
None of the garden forums are as busy now as in winter; gardeners are out gardening I guess.
Also, for the most comprehensive "how to", don't miss Trudi Davidoff's site
If you start at the FAQs, you'll have a good idea of what it is and what we do
I've been wintersowing for 5 years and I think milk jugs absolutely make the best containers. You could start to collect them now. Also stock up of potting soil by fall. It's harder to get in winter, though probably easier for you in Texas than me in Ohio.
Jul 23, 2010 11:29 AM CST
|i am interested in seeing success rates on seed varieties that were wintersown. sometimes i don't know which seeds to winter sow. |
also..........who is the best source to talk to me about depth of planting. and also what kind of dirt is best to sow seeds in?
and is my sowing in pots outside in the texas heat thru the summer..........equivalent to someone sowing seeds under grow lights? does that make sense? i have a hard time deciding in the spring WHEN to sow outside. so i decided i would try sowing seeds thru the summer here. i have had good luck with hollyhocks.
Jul 23, 2010 12:50 PM CST
|I can't help much with success rates. I'm not that scientific or particular. I grab seeds, sprinkle them in a jug, and move on. I never count seeds or figure the % that sprouted. But I am rarely disappointed; I usually end up with more plants than I can handle and end up giving a lot away to friends. I know that some people do track percentage but I never have. Seems a waste of time for me. |
I have to admit I'm not too particular about planting depth, either. If you google "seed planting depth" or something similar you'll find some recommendations. Trudi addresses this in her site, too.
Some sites say that if seeds need light to germinate they should be surface sown, those that need darkness should be sown deeper. Trudi has an answer to that, too. "For every day, there is also a night".
I assume you intend to cover the pots you sow in during summer? (Covering increases humidity which increases germination). If so, I'd give 'em lots of vents and keep in dappled shade. In your climate they might cook in sun. Seems in might be easier and even work better in winter to avoid the heat stress in Texas. But I probably shouldn't guess about your climate because I garden in Ohio. (Feels like Texas now, 90° with heat index 99) And there's a thread on the wintersowing forum about summer sowing
There is a thread in the seed cubit about potting mixes
I prefer a quality potting mix. I don't like germinating soils because I find them too fine and I think they compress too easily. Some of my favorite brands are Promix, Fafard, and MetroMix. Most wintersowers I know use Miracle Grow. I use potting mix (not seed starting mix) for everything. Everyone has their favorites, though. I also usually sprinkle fine grade horticultural vermiculite over the surface. Why don't you want to sow the seeds in winter?
If you click around the seed cubit I think you'll find a lot of the info you're looking for
Jul 23, 2010 3:24 PM CST
|i will sow in the winter. but some seeds like say morning glories you can't sow till spring.|
i have awful luck direct sowing. prob. because i don't prepare my soil properly.
i'll check out those links.