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Roemer3
May 4, 2018 10:41 PM CST
Hi guys I really want to start a garden that can fully sustain my family and I. Below is a list of plants I would like to grow. I am wondering if you know the best state to grow all of these or at least most of these in one location! I really appreciate the help and advice! -Ryan

My Someday Garden:
Apple
Avocado
Almond tree
Coconuts
Lemons
Blue berry
Strawberry
Banana
Olives
Cherry
Broccoli
Cabbage
Beans
Peas
potatoes
Mushrooms
Cucumbers
Oranges
Tomato
Kale
Spinach
Lettuce
Peppers
Beets
Carrots
Ginger
Turmeric
Chard
Mint
Wheat Grass
Sprouts
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Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Yardenman
May 4, 2018 10:51 PM CST
Roemer3 said: Hi guys I really want to start a garden that can fully sustain my family and I. Below is a list of plants I would like to grow. I am wondering if you know the best state to grow all of these or at least most of these in one location! I really appreciate the help and advice! -Ryan

My Someday Garden:
Apple
Avocado
Almond tree
Coconuts
Lemons
Blue berry
Strawberry
Banana
Olives
Cherry
Broccoli
Cabbage
Beans
Peas
potatoes
Mushrooms
Cucumbers
Oranges
Tomato
Kale
Spinach
Lettuce
Peppers
Beets
Carrots
Ginger
Turmeric
Chard
Mint
Wheat Grass
Sprouts
Chlorella Fresh Water Algae


Well, most are going to want at least 6-8 hours of sunlight and some will want more (I don't know much about almonds or coconuts, for example), but you are sure going to need a lot of space for all those! Do you have 5+ acres of full sun?

Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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quercusnut
May 5, 2018 7:01 AM CST
Not sure there is a climate that will allow you to grow both apples and coconuts/bananas.
Is there an apple that will set fruit in a frost-free zone?
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
May 5, 2018 7:25 AM CST
There are frost hardy citrus, for example, this lemon tree growing in Macon ga
https://garden.org/blogs/entry...

Don't know about avocado trees, I think they'd be incompatable with the fruits that need chill hours.

But, I could grow most of the stuff on that list...

Suggest looking at deep south states around the gulf coast... Or California/Arizona, but... Irrigation costs might be prohibitive... Not to mention land costs....

As long as you understand that stuff like kale and spinach are winter crops, can't be grown at the same time as beans and cow peas.
Dug a handful of Irish taters yesterday, planted them last autumn.

I've been planting turmeric, but I think ginger isn't winter hardy here, would have to be lifted each winter....

Coconuts?
Probably need a greenhouse.... Or maybe puerto rico....

Sounds like more of a SHTF/ TEOTWAWKI question....
Maybe ask at survivalist forum?
http://www.survivalistboards.c...
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Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
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Bonehead
May 5, 2018 8:02 AM CST
I, of course, had to look up Stone's acronyms, which I guess is to prepare for an apocalypse. I didn't particularly get that impression from Roemer's question. Looked to me like he/she was just looking for a suitable climate to grow enough food to sustain a family. I know a lot of folks who have the same aspirations, but it is more for cost-savings and to know what is in the food you consume.

My first thought was California, although many of the crops listed could also be grown in the temperate Pacific NW (except for many of the tree fruits). If the intent is to provide food on a year round basis, one would likely need to 'put up' (store, freeze, can, dehydrate) some produce for the winter months. If Roemer is not a vegetarian, I would also add in chickens (for meat and eggs) and rabbits - neither needs a lot of space.

I have a friend here in the PNW who grows about 90% of his food, and what he doesn't grow, he trades for with excess produce. He recently retired and is hoping to live quite frugally.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Yardenman
May 5, 2018 4:29 PM CST
Bonehead said:I, of course, had to look up Stone's acronyms, which I guess is to prepare for an apocalypse.

I did too. Though I might have guessed about SHTF if I thought about it for a while. Because in college we joked about WTFHTW (When The Fewmets Hit The Windmill - Oh weren't we all so preciously clever then?). LOL!

At least gardening got me a bit more "grounded" in reality...

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Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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ctcarol
May 5, 2018 6:45 PM CST
I can just about swear you won't grow coconuts in Ca., but Ca . is a big state. The rest of the tropical will grow in So. Cal, but anything that need winter chill would have to be No. Cal., or mountains. There is no nirvana.

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