Orchids forum: Hardy orchid - Cypripedium

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Name: Lee-Roy
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Arico
May 17, 2018 2:29 PM CST
Yeah so I'm slightly panicking again. In 2015 I bought a C. henryi from a reputable source. At the time it had two shoots going into dormancy. 2016 it came up with again two shoots, nothing special and it bloomed. 2017 it came up with 5 shoots! and bloomed. But this year it has reduced to just two again. I can't remember if I repotted it last year, but I doubt it because it already was in a pot when it flowered the year before with its 5 shoots. Help? It's in ordinary potting soil with course sand mixed in.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
May 17, 2018 4:01 PM CST

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I am curious why you are growing it potted up? Would you be able to plant it into your garden?

Around here we have at certain locations Cypripedium acaule, the pink Ladyslipper. These grow in very specific spots and are pretty much non-transplantable. Just wondering how you kept it going for several years, I would consider that a great success.
Name: Lee-Roy
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Arico
May 17, 2018 5:12 PM CST
Because it was a really wet summer and propably would be a wet winter too (usually is) and didn't want to risk losing it to rot, especially in my clay soil at the time. Also I moved house recently so it came in handy.
The year of purchase it actually was put in the ground...

I wouldn't call 3years a succes though Whistling
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
May 18, 2018 2:01 PM CST

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I wish I had some good good advice for you. I have tried to grow Cyp reginae some years ago in my backyard bog, I lost them after they bloomed once, never to be seen again. I tried some hardy Calanthe, they were fine about 2 seasons and then disappeared.
I grew Spiranthes odorata for several years outside and when they started to decline I potted them up in Peat Moss and treat them as a tropical. Surprisingly that works well.
Bletilla striata - now that is a great little Orchid, it grows easily outside in a protected spot and multiplies nicely.
Hopefully someone here has some good ideas for you.
Name: Bill
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BigBill
May 23, 2018 2:00 PM CST
The planting and growing of native Lady Slippers is a very difficult thing. It is something that I would personally never try. In the NE, Cypripedium acaule is one native orchid that most orchid growers are familiar with. These native slippers live in a simbiotic relationship with a fungus found in the soils. Without the fungus, no slippers will ever survive long term. Yet people keep trying to grow them!

You can't buy the fungus to add it to soils, at least not yet. If you dig the plants up from the forest along with a lot of soil, some people have had better luck. But that would be illegal in all states!!! I have read numerous articles of failure to maintain native slippers in their yard even with lots of native soil. The fungus fails to thrive long term as do the slippers.
Now we are talking about Cyp. henryi from China. How do we get the soil over here with the plant?
Some growers have bought Cyp. pubescens and had better luck, but it is not easy like growing a Phalaenopsis or an Oncidium!
There is a school, Illinois College in Rochester Illinois where Dr. Zettler and students are working on identifying the exact micro fungus that allows each species of native orchids to germinate and survive. They are making great progress but it is very slow going. The Naples Orchid Society sponsors two students from the college to spend a month each summer working with Dr. Zettler and native Florida orchids. The goal is to allow for 6 native orchids in Florida that are now extinct in the wild to be re-established. The fungal ground work is a very important step in this process. They already dream of understanding what each orchid species requires in terms of a fungus so that these plants might be saved from permanent extinction. One such orchid is the Ghost Orchid. Ghost orchids are making a comeback in the Big Panther Refuge and Fakahatchee Strand in Collier County in Florida. You can google that for more info.
They have been working closely with a Cuban orchid expert Dr. Mujica because those extinct Florida species can be found growing in Cuba today. It made me proud that relations with Cuba are improving slowly and Dr. Mujica and the Naples Orchid Society, along with Dr. Zettler and his students are bridging the political bridge to save these plants. I have personally donated $4,000 over the last four years towards those efforts. Dr. Mujica and Dr. Zettler communicate on a regular basis, visit each other's countries all because or orchids!!
Sorry for such a long winded answer to this post but this needed to be said. Growing orchids can be far more complicated then simply digging them up and putting them in a pot.
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Name: Bill
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BigBill
May 23, 2018 2:06 PM CST
Oh, btw the Naples Botanical Garden, as part of this project has been growing Ghost orchids successfully for over 18 months on wet burlap in the Gardens greenhouses!!! They isolated the fungus. Thumbs up
Up until recently they thought that this orchid would only grow on Pop Ash trees or Pond Apples! But low and behold, they are growing and blooming on burlap!! Ain't nature great!!! Hurray!
The Ghost Orchid is a "leafless" orchid.
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
May 24, 2018 6:34 AM CST

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That is really neat!! Years ago, I think it may have been Oak Hill, sold Ghost Orchid seedlings. I tried my hand on them, but lost them eventually.
Did you ever do a walk with this fellow, Prem?
http://www.flnativeorchids.com...
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ardesia
May 24, 2018 6:46 AM CST
That is good info. Years ago we had a native dogwood that would self sow under its canopy. If we transplanted the seedlings with plenty of soil they grew well but if the soil fell off and the seedling was bare root they always died immediately no matter how well they were cared for. They just seemed to need whatever was in that soil to become established. Ain't nature grand?
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
May 24, 2018 7:08 AM CST

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Surely for the same reason I never see my Bletillas spreading beyond a couple of feet into the border. I have never seen any seedlings pop up.

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