Roses forum: Growing roses in pots

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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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May 24, 2018 10:08 PM CST
Karen ... if you are satisfied with how the rose is growing in a container, then there is no need to make a change.

However, if you think you can get better performance by planting it in the ground, then it makes sense to plant it in the ground.

From my own experience, I don't think hybrid teas or floribundas ever reach their full potential in a container. There just isn't enough room for them to develop the root mass needed to support the top growth.

I think you garden in a hot, dry climate like mine. I believe a rose with a full root system has the tools to hydrate the plant better. A lot of moisture in the foliage is lost through transpiration with our high summer temps. With an adequate root system, the plant has the tools to pump up more moisture and it can handle the heat better.

Also, once the rose is established in the ground, you don't have to water every day. I deep water my roses once a week. Mid-week, I give them what I call a "feeder root" watering. The feeder roots are located closer to the surface and this mid-week watering helps keep them moist.

I am also growing them in full, hot sun.

I've read the patent for 'Henry Fonda' and the rose has the thick, leathery petals that I think make the blooms more heat resistant ... they don't fry ... Smiling and they last on the plant longer.

I guess you can tell, I think the rose will do better in the ground ... Smiling
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May 27, 2018 8:14 AM CST
The pot sizes are about 30cm high x 35cm wide round and 30cm high x 24cm x 30cm
Name: Karen
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May 27, 2018 8:17 AM CST
Thanks, Lyn, I'll get it in the ground soon. I do think it would be happier and I could water less.
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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
May 27, 2018 9:33 AM CST
@Starfishmomma ...

You are very likely gardening in a much cooler climate than Karen's or mine, so the size of the container for an HT or floribunda makes a huge difference.

The root mass of a rose mirrors the top growth ... like a tree.

The rose Karen is growing, is a HT that, according to the patent, grows to around five feet. To have a container large enough to support a rose that will grow that tall, the container would have to be huge ! With a smaller container, the roots are squished in and will never be allowed to grow large enough to support a five foot plant. So, the top growth will have to be kept much smaller. Which is why I believe the larger roses never reach their full potential.

Also, in our high summer temps ... think 35C / 95F to 40C / 105F every day for months ... it's very difficult to keep the soil in the container moist ... especially if the plant is root bound.

The soil in a container grown plant should be changed out and the roots pruned about every three years, which is a LOT of work. If the rose is planted in the ground, we can skip this step.

With your cooler climate, you may be able to grow a plant in a container much better than Karen or I.

Good luck with your roses.
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