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Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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plantladylin
May 18, 2018 1:53 PM CST
Not an invasion of the Plant Kind .... but rather, an invasive Tree Frog.

We've had so much rain lately (and it's predicted to continue for another full WEEK!) but hanks to all of the rain, I've been enjoying what seems like thousands of frogs chirping, peeping and singling loudly in the evening and at night.

Yesterday afternoon during a lull in the rain, I was walking around the yard and happened to notice this little cutie hiding in the leaves of a small Oleander shrub, where an Anole Lizard appeared to be stalking it. I came inside to do a bit of research to see if I could identify the little peeper and discovered that it was a juvenile Cuban Tree Frog! Although I've seen many (quite large) Cuban Tree Frogs over the last dozen or so years, this is the first juvenile, baby I've spotted. Cute little thing but there are too many of them and they are displacing our little native tree frogs. Sad I was going to humanely euthanize this little one but by the time I got back outside it was gone ... I'm hoping that maybe the Anole Lizard ate it but I bet hundreds more of it's relatives are still around! Sighing!

If I come across any more of them ... they are going in the freezer!!
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I must admit though, I'd much rather have the invasive cuban tree frogs ... than the huge invasive pythons and huge lizards that are found in the southern part of the state! Green Grin!
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Name: Scott
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ScotTi
May 19, 2018 8:19 AM CST
Looks like the Cuban Tree Frog is extending it's unwelcome range outside of Florida.
http://mentalfloss.com/article...
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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plantladylin
May 19, 2018 9:44 AM CST
Oh my ... A few years ago, I heard that they had been found in the southern part of Georgia but didn't realize they'd made it all the way to the New Orleans, Louisiana area!

As much as I dislike having to get rid of them, they are displacing so many of the native little critters here in Florida. It's said that they will eat anything they can fit into their mouths which includes our native tree frogs, lizards and even small birds! Blinking
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Name: pam
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gardenglory
May 19, 2018 10:06 AM CST
You need to freeze them right from the get go. They stick around in the same places and you get used to seeing those big eyes giving you hello, and then its hard to do.
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Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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plantladylin
May 19, 2018 10:15 AM CST
Oh, I've euthanized a few large Cuban Tree Frogs in the past by putting Oragel on their heads, which puts them into a torpor state and then they go in a zip lok bag and into the freezer before disposal. I just wasn't sure what kind that little one was ... and when I went back out after learning it's identity, it was gone. I'm going to be on the lookout for them and will definitely humanely euthanize any that I find. We have lots of tiny native tree frogs here and I sure don't want to see them eradicated by those invasive bully frogs!
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~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


Name: Alice
St. Johns, FL (Zone 9a)
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ardesia
May 19, 2018 3:36 PM CST
I have seen them here also, they get imported on plant material. I keep a small spray bottle of benzocaine handy.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
May 20, 2018 1:22 PM CST
Oh geez, I didn't realize they had spread so far. This is not good, not good at all. Sighing!
I'm afraid we've lost the fight if they're in LA, SC, GA. Imagine the Okefenokee swamp. OY!
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
May 22, 2018 8:13 AM CST
Is this the Cuban Tree Frog? I have them up in the sliding door rails (4), and they haven't moved from these "hiding places" for a week. Perhaps they move at night and then hunker down during the daylight hours (though they are there at 6:00 AM.

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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
May 22, 2018 10:39 AM CST
Too hard to tell from that photo Ken. Here are some links for you:
http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu...
http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu...
http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu...
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/uw346
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/uw259

A nation mourns its fallen soldiers, who paid the ultimate price for our freedom. And Junior? Well, Junior spies their solemn white graves from the back of his limousine, and he grieves for the inconveniences he overcame for his silver spoons. Quoth the Craven “Nevermore.” ~Walter Shaub~
Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
May 22, 2018 12:00 PM CST
I researched the ufl.edu sites and as far as I can determine, all these frogs along the upper rail of our sliders are Cuban's. I captured three this morning and they are "resting" in the freezer. I chased a 4th one out of the rail but it escaped me. I will get it later.
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Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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plantladylin
May 22, 2018 12:05 PM CST
From the size, I'd say that's definitely a Cuban Tree Frog!
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~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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gardenglory
May 22, 2018 12:33 PM CST
They love places like that ken, window frames, in between just about anything. They are very loud as well.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
May 22, 2018 12:42 PM CST
Great going Ken! Thanks for being a friend & custodian of the environment.
A nation mourns its fallen soldiers, who paid the ultimate price for our freedom. And Junior? Well, Junior spies their solemn white graves from the back of his limousine, and he grieves for the inconveniences he overcame for his silver spoons. Quoth the Craven “Nevermore.” ~Walter Shaub~
Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
May 22, 2018 1:48 PM CST
Loud is an understatement, Pam. Never hearing the strange "croak" of a Cuban, they woke us up numerous times in our first couple of weeks here. We have a pair of French doors in our bedroom, looking out onto the pond, and the frogs actually sounded like they were inside those doors rather than outside. They drove us crazy until we sort of got used to the sound.

You are welcome, Ann. Mother Nature needs all the help we can give her.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
May 22, 2018 2:09 PM CST
Oh yeh Ken, you need to learn about BUFO marinus aka Cane toads too. They're HUGE. Did I say they're huge? Ken, you will die the first time you see one of those suckers fully grown!

http://www.wec.ufl.edu/extensi...

This link is real good b/c it shows some of our native toads as well
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/uw432


http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu...
A nation mourns its fallen soldiers, who paid the ultimate price for our freedom. And Junior? Well, Junior spies their solemn white graves from the back of his limousine, and he grieves for the inconveniences he overcame for his silver spoons. Quoth the Craven “Nevermore.” ~Walter Shaub~
Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
May 22, 2018 3:05 PM CST
I haven't run across one of these yet. In fact, I haven't seen a toad at all. Lots of lizards though and plenty of tree frogs. I haven't seen a bullfrog in the pond yet.
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sultry_jasmine_night
Jun 13, 2018 4:05 PM CST
Plant roses with deep fluffy blooms. Little frogs just love to hide and sleep in roses in Florida.
Such cuties!! Lovey dubby

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Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
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gardenglory
Jun 15, 2018 1:59 PM CST
Been a very long time since Ive seen a green tree frog. Exciting. Thumbs up
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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plantladylin
Jun 16, 2018 10:30 AM CST
I agree, how exciting ... and I see a pair of those little cuties hiding in the rose in the first photo! Lovey dubby
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~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Jun 16, 2018 10:42 AM CST
I went out this morning and found five different tree frogs, not on the glass. They are all really tiny. All but the last one have about 1/2" long bodies. The last one has a 3/4" body. The lizard you see (what species is this?) is about 8", tip of its nose to the tip of its tail. You gotta look carefully to see the frog below and to the left of the lizard. These lizards are everywhere. The tree frogs may be all the same species, though their coloring and color patterns differ somewhat.


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