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May 20, 2018 8:01 PM CST
Western Montana
So we moved into a home a couple of years ago and there are two extremely overgrown garden beds in our backyard I've been trying to clear of weeds/grass, but the weeds/grass are not budging when I try to pull. (There are also 2 beautiful peony bushes in them). I flooded them thinking that would loosen up the soil but discovered I actually can't pull anything out because all of those weeds/grass have grown through two layers of weed mat. Do you have any suggestions for me?
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May 21, 2018 5:16 AM CST
Name: Val
Near Boston, MA (Zone 6a)
Weeding is easier after a rain/ tho some people say it's not good to step on your garden when the soil is wet as it compacts the soil.

If your garden is that overgrown/tough to pull, perhaps you'll have to take a shovel and dig out areas, weed and replant? It might also be a good idea if you are wanting to move some things to another area/bed- ??

It's funny how weeds and grass are so stubborn to pull, but it's easier to pull out seedlings, etc of the plants you WANT Sad
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May 21, 2018 7:45 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Those weed barriers suck.
Suggest cutting barrier around the peony bushes and whatever else you want to keep, and then ripping out all that fabric.
The plants should all come with the mat. Use shovels, mattock, whatever it takes.
You can always replace the fabric if you think it's worth having, but no weeding is possible without removing the current one.
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May 21, 2018 10:57 AM CST
Name: Cinda
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I agree

Stone gave the same advise I would , the weed barrier should go .
It will give you more trouble than the weeds in the long run.

When I have to do a rescue on an overgrown garden it is the first thing I recommend.
The only good place for weed barrier is under rock and that is only good for about 4-5 years then seedlings germinate in the debris between the rocks that has turned to dirt.
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May 21, 2018 11:06 AM CST
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How can the weed matting be removed with all those roots holding it down?
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May 21, 2018 12:22 PM CST
Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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Agree with all of the above...I made the mistake of putting a mat under some rocks around our trees, and it is ALL overgrown above and below. I would cut it in sections. Start at one end and cut 2'x2' or something to see what the best way would be to pull it up (this is also how to find out if the weeds will come with [they should] or if it'll need some extra effort).

Edited to add: the weeds aren't really holding it down. Once you start pulling it should all come up. It's going to be a mess, but soo worth it in the end.
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May 21, 2018 12:42 PM CST
Name: Cinda
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Starfishmomma said:How can the weed matting be removed with all those roots holding it down?


Most of the weed roots will be on top the barrier only the smaller roots penetrate for water and such , normally taproots do not penetrate the barrier.
It is difficult but doable , kinda like pulling up carpet.

Fyi : I use a sharp carpet cutter to cut the barrier in pull-able pieces.
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May 21, 2018 11:16 PM CST
Western Montana
Thank you all for the wonderful advice! Wish me luck!
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May 22, 2018 6:21 AM CST
Name: Cinda
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Crossing Fingers!

Let us know how it went. Crossing Fingers!
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May 22, 2018 6:47 AM CST
Name: Mindi Hammerstone
Tracy, CA (Zone 9b)
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I wish you luck 🍀

😀

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May 22, 2018 8:07 AM CST
Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
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I'm wishing you luck, too! Crossing Fingers! I had to pull up yards of the stuff. Hard work but, as already stated, worth the effort.

And Welcome! to NGA, Annika!
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