Roses forum: Question about root stock

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Name: Donna Marshall
Texas, USA
Region: Texas Roses Keeper of Poultry
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hndmarshall
May 21, 2018 8:47 AM CST
What type of Root stock do they use for grafting? I have a yellow rose variety unknown it has a 3 leaflet leaf.....

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its leaves have three leaflets....(taken on a rainy day)

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at the bottom of the base is an offshoot it has no thorns, what I thought was thorns at first are bud eyes along the stem ...

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the stem is long and slender...the leaves have 5 leaflets that are longer in shape that the grafted roses leaves....any idea what variety they have grafted too?.

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Thank you
Donna
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
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fwmosher
May 22, 2018 10:45 AM CST
Donna, I believe (could be corrected) that most grafts in the US use "Dr. Huey". In Canada, most use "Multiflora". I believe your rose looks a lot like the beautiful HT "Medallion"? Which here, are more on the ivory color than yellow. I would cut off the graft sprout right to ground level, because as you know, it competes with your beautiful rose. Cheers!
Name: Donna Marshall
Texas, USA
Region: Texas Roses Keeper of Poultry
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hndmarshall
May 22, 2018 12:22 PM CST
I did some investigating after your post and i do believe you are correct about the root stock, I will remove it but I also may root it, I could use a frisky little rambler and the curiosity of what it could be has been lit....lol
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
May 22, 2018 1:02 PM CST
Donna ...

When you remove the root stock sucker, dig down to where it is coming from and RIP it off. Don't cut it off. If you cut the root stock, you are just leaving bud eyes to develop more root stock.

I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Birds Roses Clematis Lilies Peonies
Region: Canadian Photo Contest Winner: 2017 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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fwmosher
May 27, 2018 6:15 PM CST
I don't quite follow the logic in the suggestion that the root stock sprout should be "ripped off" rather than just cut off? Anyone cutting off "a below the graft sprout," would naturally cut it off, I think? Not easy to "rip" a sprout off, above or below soil level without tearing a disease-prone rift in the rose stem /root structure.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
May 27, 2018 10:09 PM CST

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Cutting stimulates growth. That's why we prune roses. If you cut off the sucker, you will get more suckers. You must dig down to the growth node from which the sucker is growing and pull the sucker off the plant, pulling downward so that the growth node is destroyed. The resulting "wound" will form a scar and will stop producing suckers. This is easy to do when suckers are young. It takes more effort if suckers have been allowed to grow strong.
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses Irises Lilies
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Steve812
May 28, 2018 7:53 AM CST
I think that ripping removes the stem cells that cause the sucker to keep forming over and over again. Simple pruning generally does not.

With the right knife one might be able to do the same without causing quite so much ancillary damage as ripping might do; but some amount of surgery on the plant is required.
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Birds Roses Clematis Lilies Peonies
Region: Canadian Photo Contest Winner: 2017 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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fwmosher
May 28, 2018 5:43 PM CST
Hey, Thanks for the advice all! I have always just cut the sprout off flat against the root stock, but now that I have heard what everyone has to say on the subject, and watched the videos, I am not too old or too stubborn to accept good advice, learn something new! I was watering my "cutting roses" in the greenhouse
today, and there again was a "wild" below the graft root stock sprout, which I have cut off several times before! Tomorrow, I shall go down and rip the g---- out of it! LOL. Good advice, again thank you!

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