Roses forum: DA roses

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Tkhan
May 23, 2018 8:12 PM CST
Hi all I posted that my FALSTAFF lost all leaves and bud eyes after pruning but I noticed that my Winchester cathedral has the same problem drooping leaves and buds I think with the wet winter and lots of rain both my roses are water logged
I'm thinking of giving them a bigger container new potting soil which drains better and lots of wholes in the container for drainage
How should I repot them and
I only have miracle grow available What should I add to it to make it better draining
I also have a organic potting soil available at Lowe's Home /Depot However this one seems denser than miracle grow
What should I do ?
Help me save my roses !!!
Name: Frank Mosher
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fwmosher
May 24, 2018 1:07 PM CST
Tkhan: Hi! You haven't given us much to go on? No pictures, no pot sizes, whether left out over Winter or brought in, any size of disease: rose slug, blackspot, powdery mildew, etc? Also, is this a new bush rose received this year? Following is a posting from the great HelpMeFind rose site on pruning "Falstaff": Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that." Did you prune off new bud eyes? With respect to "Winchester", pretty near the same as most David Austin roses, they are beautiful but tender, unless in English Country gardens and South in the US including California. Real struggle anywhere else, and they certainly are not hardy despite claims in any Zone 5, Canada or the US. With respect to the potting soil for roses, one can go really crazy on selections for same, and in my experience, it really doesn't matter that much. There is an old adage, something like 'the worse the soil the more Nobel the rose." One could theoretically grow a rose in any medium, as long as it was fed with nutrients, and watered, and the substrate was not so dense as to prevent the rose from sending out rootlets! Give us some more info, particularly on overwintering or if these were new purchases? Cheers!
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Tkhan
May 24, 2018 3:06 PM CST
Thanks fwmosher
The pot size is 20" but gets narrow at the bottom This is their second year and we had terrible winter They were outside in the cold They did start having growth which was beautiful and healthy than all of a sudden I noticed death all shriveled and falling limp leaves
No disease as far as I know
Me being very new to gardening did not realize that there was not enough drainage holes so me and my hubby tilted the pots today and drilled several and it started dripping water
Maybe that is the problem Too much standing water !!! Let's cross my fingers and hope they come back
Name: Frank Mosher
Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Birds Roses Clematis Lilies Peonies
Region: Canadian Photo Contest Winner: 2017 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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fwmosher
May 27, 2018 1:11 PM CST
Tkhan: Increasing watering holes always good idea, now perhaps, you just have to wait it out to make a final decision. Note, if you can bring potted roses inside somewhere, even in an unheated garage, (on an insulating pad, wood, styrofoam- not on bare concrete) over the Winter, makes a big difference! Cheers!

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