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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
May 24, 2018 1:19 PM CST
Please help me identify the name of the rose that is now a Rose Tree. Are all Rose Trees called Standard?
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Name: Lin Vosbury
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plantladylin
May 24, 2018 2:04 PM CST
I don't know much at all about Roses but I thought a "Tree" Rose was just the manner in which certain types of Roses are pruned and trained into a tree-like form.

Here's a listing for David Austin Tree Roses: https://www.davidaustinroses.c... whose page says they are created by budding three shrubs on a stem.

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Name: Lin Vosbury
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plantladylin
May 24, 2018 2:07 PM CST
@zuzu and @Calif_Sue are moderators of our Rose Forum and also administrators for our Rose Database; I'm sure one of our them will be able to help.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 24, 2018 2:54 PM CST

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What are we identifying, JB? Did you mean to upload a photo?

Yes, standards and tree roses are the same thing. They usually consist of three different roses, one providing the root stock, another producing the tall straight cane serving as the "trunk," and another producing the visible blooms. Sometimes more than one rose is grafted (or budded) to the top of the "trunk." I've seen interesting combinations of Iceberg, Burgundy Iceberg, and Brilliant Pink Iceberg, for example.
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
May 25, 2018 12:30 PM CST
Good heavens, what happened to it. I was having problems with the internet yesterday and I never looked to see if it was in the post before I sent it. I will look this time.

I would like to have the name of the rose that they made into a tree on the picture. It has a beautiful fragrance and is a deep color ..I have never seen one like it.

Here it is..........I hope.
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plantladylin
May 25, 2018 12:55 PM CST
I have no clue about identifying roses and there may be many that are sold in tree form.

Rose (Rosa 'Burgundy Iceberg') is apparently sold as a tree rose: https://www.springhillnursery.... although to my eyes, the color doesn't quite look like a match:



Rose (Rosa 'Ebb Tide') is also one that's apparently sold as a tree form: https://www.edmundsroses.com/P... but the bloom looks a lot fuller than the one in your photo:
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 25, 2018 2:09 PM CST

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What size is the tree rose in the picture, JB? If it's a small tree rose, it could have a mini-rose at the top, something like Diamond Eyes.



If the "trunk" of the tree rose is at least 3 feet tall and the blooms and leaves are of average size, however, it could be Burgundy Iceberg. The colors in the photos Lin chose are somewhat deceptive. These photos are more representative of the bloom color.

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JB
May 26, 2018 8:46 AM CST
Thank you so much for your help. The flowers are more the size of a tea rose and since it was grown in a field at the nursery that gave it to my daughter, and went through weeks of rain and hail, I am not sure about the original color. The trunk is maybe 2 feet tall. I will try and get a close up picture of one of the blooms today before it storms. This was a busy week here at the Christmas Tree farm trying to catch up with mowing the fields and spraying between rains and winds. I will post later or tomorrow. Thanks. I am thinking it is the Rose Burgundy Iceburg. Just not sure.
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
May 26, 2018 10:10 AM CST
Here are close ups of the blooms on the Rose Tree. Sorry about the dead heads, I have not been out to the field in 2 days and I am the one who does that.
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Anxious to see if you can identify it now. I am still lost but with one eye only it is so difficult for me to see the colors due to a cataract in that one eye. Confused
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 26, 2018 1:02 PM CST

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Burgundy Iceberg is a floribunda with dark anthers. Floribundas usually are grafted onto a trunk that's 3 or 4 feet tall, and the anthers in your photos are distinctly yellow. Standards with a trunk that's from 1 foot to 2 feet tall usually are used for mini-roses. Diamond Eyes is a mini-rose with yellow anthers, so it's a better match for the rose in your photo.

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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
May 27, 2018 12:49 PM CST
zuzu said:Burgundy Iceberg is a floribunda with dark anthers. Floribundas usually are grafted onto a trunk that's 3 or 4 feet tall, and the anthers in your photos are distinctly yellow. Standards with a trunk that's from 1 foot to 2 feet tall usually are used for mini-roses. Diamond Eyes is a mini-rose with yellow anthers, so it's a better match for the rose in your photo.

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