Plant and Seed Trading forum: Looking for Wafer Ash Seeds

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Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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TexasPlumeria87
May 29, 2018 8:53 AM CST
I have rue seeds that I can trade for them.
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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TexasPlumeria87
May 29, 2018 8:56 AM CST
Also looking for fragrant sumac seeds.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Jun 2, 2018 8:59 PM CST
Hello Someone may yet answer , However , I might have some this fall ,

My tree in bloom
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Might make some seeds this time ,

In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Winter Sowing Butterflies Salvias Houseplants Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds
Bulbs Amaryllis Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Region: Texas Bromeliad
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TexasPlumeria87
Jun 3, 2018 9:28 AM CST
jimard8 said: Hello Someone may yet answer , However , I might have some this fall ,

My tree in bloom
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Might make some seeds this time ,


That would be great Jim! I really appreciate it. I saw that it's a host plant for the Giant Swallowtail and I want to add more pollinator friendly plants in my garden.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Jun 3, 2018 12:40 PM CST
I have Had one Giant Swallowtail I have seen this season , it appeared to be laying eggs on the tree . i see one once in a while ,

It grows here like a shrub tree mine is 8 ft tall or so ,only gets about 12 ft or so if I remember correctly , as to here ,

in the south they get as large as an orange tree eventually Hope you get the Swallowtails ,

Giant Swallowtail eggs .on my ash
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In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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Bulbs Amaryllis Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Region: Texas Bromeliad
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TexasPlumeria87
Jun 3, 2018 1:11 PM CST
Wow that's amazing that you were able to get a picture of the eggs. I've seen a few Tiger Swallowtails fluttering around my garden but I don't have a food source for the caterpillars yet. I have a couple of spots that would be perfect for one. Thumbs up
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Jun 11, 2018 7:29 PM CST
Hello Cameron , Some of these are looking like the end of June Some are being eaten , Many different rates of development ,
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What other host plants are looking for ? if any ?
Last photo looks like a larvae rolled up in a seed bottom left center

In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
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TexasPlumeria87
Jun 12, 2018 9:29 AM CST
jimard8 said:Hello Cameron , Some of these are looking like the end of June Some are being eaten , Many different rates of development ,
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What other host plants are looking for ? if any ?
Last photo looks like a larvae rolled up in a seed bottom left center



Wow that's great. I can't believe they're developing so fast. I wish I could grow milkweed but I think the only type that does well in my area is the Antelope Horns milkweed. It's very drought tolerant and I see if growing in a couple of areas around town.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Jun 12, 2018 10:00 AM CST
Cameron , it would seem Tuberosa would grow where you are ,
https://npsot.org/wp/story/201... Texas Native Milkweeds

I have things like Spicebush , Stinging Nettle , A few Milkweeds , Trees like Yellow Poplar , Black Cherry ,
Tithonia sunflower is food source bloom draw here , only Annual here , Perennial where you are
I was seeing what you liked , if you have room for Spicebush and such ..

and So was i Blinking Those wafer ash pods developed in like 4 days .. poof , plant magic , Confused


In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Winter Sowing Butterflies Salvias Houseplants Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds
Bulbs Amaryllis Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Region: Texas Bromeliad
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TexasPlumeria87
Jun 12, 2018 10:17 AM CST
I wonder if the tuberosa will do well in clay soil? The spicebush sounds very interesting, I wonder if it would do well in Texas? I didn't know black cherry was a host plant? That's really neat.

The wafer ash seed pods are definitely like plant magic lol.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Jun 12, 2018 11:06 AM CST
Tuberosa grows in clay here .

Mourning Cloak is Black Cherry,,
Azure ( Dogwood ,
Tiger or Eastern Yellow Swallowtail Yellow poplar

Says spicebush needs good soil , I don't know if that is true or not , and I don't know if the seeds are viable , But here they are developing Left side of photo
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Mine is the Native not any cultivar , says it grows in Texas

I was also surprised to see their are 30 types of Milkweed that grow in Texas

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Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Winter Sowing Butterflies Salvias Houseplants Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds
Bulbs Amaryllis Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Region: Texas Bromeliad
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TexasPlumeria87
Jun 12, 2018 11:24 AM CST
Knowing that, gives me some confidence because I tried growing tuberosa a couple of times and I failed. Someone told me they needed sandy soil so I never tried growing them again after that. I think I've heard of the Mourning Cloak butterfly but I've never seen one in person. I wish I had room for a black cherry.

My soil is mainly limestone and clay. I have to add lots of amendments to make it somewhat decent. I didn't know Texas had that many milkweed plants. I used to grow a milkweed vine but it never returned for some reason?
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
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jimard8
Jun 12, 2018 11:52 AM CST
A great many people fail at Tuberosa . My seeds are good but have low germination rates , A lot of gardeners can handle sprouting them and planting them I can't , One of mine is 3 or 4 years old , it only returned last week (well and a half ago )
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Already setting blooms and by early September it will have set seeds and be gone
dormant , Makes patience and random germination very difficult

In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Winter Sowing Butterflies Salvias Houseplants Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds
Bulbs Amaryllis Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Region: Texas Bromeliad
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TexasPlumeria87
Jun 12, 2018 12:56 PM CST
I tried sowing some seeds and I got pretty good germination but we had a couple of downpours in Summer and that rotted them. I was so upset because they were doing really well. It seems like a very temperamental plant.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
Birds Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers
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jimard8
Jun 24, 2018 12:38 AM CST

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Their looking good as to development I am hesitant to take them for a while

Butterfly weed orange ,
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Butterfly weed yellow ,, Their both growing in wet clay
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I am going to try a red and white one shortly

Hi ,,hope all is well

In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Winter Sowing Butterflies Salvias Houseplants Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds
Bulbs Amaryllis Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Region: Texas Bromeliad
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TexasPlumeria87
Jun 24, 2018 7:16 AM CST
Hi Jim. I actually found some Wafer Ash seeds just the other day in another forum. Thanks for offering the ones on your tree. I may try butterfly weed again because I'd love to feed the monarchs. I didn't know there was a red and white butterfly weed?

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