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May 30, 2018 8:31 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
I collected seeds from the side of a highway years ago and this plant has been growing on my rugged hill ever since. The strain has always been a very clear, unmarked red. Very showy. This year there is a variance in four plants currently blooming. I like them, but am not sure I want them to reseed. So I'll have to decide whether to eliminate those seed heads when they finish blooming or let things be. I haven't used any chemicals like Roundup for 4-5 years, but I did have septic tank work last summer late and allowed them to wash down some equipment and that runoff would have crossed this patch. But they look awfully consistent in the blooms and pattern for that. Anyway, maybe these photos will tell a better story. All the photos are better enlarged to see what I'm talking about. Tedious, I know.

You can see a bit of the odd ones here:
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This a normal bloom and prior to this year is how they always look:
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There are three plants inches apart from each other looking different:
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And this one, not so obvious until you are close, which is also near the orange. Look at the face pattern in the bloom:
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The one just above again. Harder to tell immediately that it's different from the normal red. Just doesn't have quite the snap of color from a distance.
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I probably should just go yank them up now, but I won't Big Grin .
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May 30, 2018 8:57 AM CST
Name: Betsy
Texas (Zone 9a)
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@needrain, if you collect more seeds, LMK, would like to grow these. Been wanting to get them for years.
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May 30, 2018 11:08 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
piksihk said:@needrain, if you collect more seeds, LMK, would like to grow these. Been wanting to get them for years.


I can collect seeds if I remember to do it Big Grin . Are you referring to the variants or the red ones?
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May 30, 2018 12:18 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
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Very nice!!
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May 30, 2018 2:38 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA (Zone 7b)
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It's a completely normal variation within the species.
Personally, I like the variants even more than the plain ones and would happily grow them. Green Grin!
Please don't yank them! They are beautiful! Lovey dubby


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May 30, 2018 3:53 PM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
@Danita I've been growing these for 15 years or more. This year is the first time any variants have appeared. That seems strange to me, which is why I was wondering if somehow there was some chemical contamination in the soil somehow.

It's not that I don't like them. I do. But not as well as those clear red ones. I'm just thinking I'd prefer to have them all alike without the variation. Once the novelty wears off, I think I would like viewing the variants better too, if they were all segregated into a uniform stand all the same color. Seems the easiest method to maintain them being all the same, is to remove the seed heads of the variants so they don't reseed.
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May 30, 2018 9:26 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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Well, I'm fond of integration. Seriously tho, I think they'd be lovely all mingled together.
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Jun 7, 2018 2:40 PM CST
Name: Betsy
Texas (Zone 9a)
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@needrain,
the red ones - if you get seeds.
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Jun 12, 2018 4:08 PM CST
Name: Kat
Magnolia, Tx (Zone 9a)
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Variant could be caused by this weather, or the fact they have been in the same spot for 5 yrs and used up the nutrients in the soil in that spot. I think they are gorgeous, and have no clue if you can actually trust the colors to run true...
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