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Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Bonehead
May 30, 2018 12:05 PM CST
I found this in my back woods. It is obviously at the tail end of blooming, with a seed pod starting. The leaves are strappy. Bloom was perhaps at 1' or perhaps a bit taller. It was growing in part shade near a cedar tree. I think I have a larger clump in my front field. Any ideas? Blue eyed grass comes closest in my field guide.

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I blew up the bloom a bit:
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Name: Rob
Portland, OR (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Native Plants and Wildflowers
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nuttallii
May 30, 2018 12:14 PM CST
It looks like Sisyrinchium idahoense, Idaho blue grass?


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Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
Region: United Kingdom Garden Photography Plant Identifier
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Silversurfer
May 30, 2018 1:02 PM CST
It looks like a bluebell to me.
the flowers start of dangling as the plant is fertilised the flowers face upwards and the seed pods develop.
Possibly the Spanish bluebells......Hyacinthoides hispanica

https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/...

Here the common one is Hyacinthoides non scripta.

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Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Bonehead
May 30, 2018 1:08 PM CST
I have spanish bluebells along my driveway. I'll go check them to see where they are at bloom-wise, and pull one to compare with my visitor out back. I know they multiply freely, although I typically just see them increase in situ rather than popping up a hundred feet away. But, maybe the birds planted them.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Bonehead
May 30, 2018 2:03 PM CST
Here's how my spanish bluebells are looking now, and a stalk pulled and placed next to the mystery plant for comparison:

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My mystery plant has 5 flowers at the stalk end, whereas my bluebells have considerably more and started lower on the stem. I'm leaning toward blue eyed grass, still comparing to photos. It looks like it had 4 or maybe 5 leaves (some were chewed up) and the leaves are shorter than the flower stalk. At this point, this is a solitary plant. Hopefully it will multiply.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
Region: United Kingdom Garden Photography Plant Identifier
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Silversurfer
May 30, 2018 2:46 PM CST
Your flower show stamens.
Sisyrinchium has very thin leaves and one star shaped flower on a wiry stem...you cannot see any stamens.
It is definitely not a Sisyrinchium

https://calphotos.berkeley.edu...

https://calphotos.berkeley.edu...
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Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Bonehead
May 30, 2018 2:59 PM CST
All the photos I am finding for sisyrinchium (particularly S. idahoense) show definite darker stripes (for lack of a better word) and a pointed tip at the end of each petal. My photo just doesn't seem to match up, although it is difficult to find a bloom photo when the flower is fading and starting to develop a seedpod. The pod description is an egg-shaped capsule, which seems to be what is developing. I would note that my local field guide also states S. idahoense can have 1-5 flowers above a pair of sheathing leaf-life bracts, and the leaves will be very narrow (less than 2 mm), this plant has 4-5 leaves about 1" or wider. I'll keep researching. Sometimes I just have to patiently page through my entire field guide -- assuming this is actually a native rather than an escaped cultivated plant. It's a bit suspect that there is only one plant I can locate in the nearby area, and I haven't run into it anywhere else on our 10 acres of let-it-go land. We just got our road improved and I'm walking out back more often so perhaps I'll find more. Meanwhile, open for suggestions.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
Region: United Kingdom Garden Photography Plant Identifier
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Silversurfer
Jun 2, 2018 5:06 AM CST
You may find this of some help.

Your bluebell may be a cross between Hyacinthoides non scripta and Hyacinthoides hispanica...ie Hyacinthoides massartiana.

http://www.cumbriabotany.co.uk...
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