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May 30, 2018 7:11 PM CST
VA
I used Ortho home defence for lawn and landscape concentrate at the recommended 1.5 oz per gallon. Now leaves on Apple, dogwood, hazelnut, watermellon, tomatoes, and beans all curled down and look wrinkled. Are they going to die?
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May 31, 2018 12:55 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Welcome!

I'm a little confused. I thought Ortho home defence for lawn and landscape was used to make a barrier around the foundation of your house to keep the creepie crawlies, like ants, from coming inside.

But, reading the product label, it says you can spray it on your trees and plants and it will kill over 200 types of insects, including bees.

What are you trying to kill? Are you having an insect problem in your trees and plants? If so, I don't think I would use this stuff to do it. Your plants will probably recover. If you sprayed during the day when the sun was out, the leaves got burned. But I suspect this type of insecticide is just too strong to spray on everything in the yard.

I also wouldn't believe the claims that its no longer harmful as soon as it dries. I wouldn't let my dog or kids anywhere near my yard until it was washed thoroughly away. I tip my hat to you.
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May 31, 2018 1:13 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Hi & welcome! I also used to be under the mistaken notion that if something is sold in a store, it must be safe.

The label for this product:
https://www.ortho.com/en-us/pr...

says:
"Do not use on vegetables or fruit trees not listed on the label."

I wouldn't put packaged substances of any kind on veggies or fruit trees. That's the whole point of growing them at home, for me anyway. There's plenty of 'cide-grown produce at a store, where they can be picked in the A/C w/o getting a single mosquito bite.
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May 31, 2018 1:43 PM CST
VA
Alphids and mites are getting my Apple trees. Rust is trying but using copper. My beans and other vegetables are being eat my Beatles and ants are destroying my watermellon. Who know what all is eating my blackberry and grape vine. I was just trying to find something inexpensive to treat them all but have failed terribly. Any suggestions on a good all round insecticide? I sprayed the plants in the late evening so not to burn them up in the sun.
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May 31, 2018 1:50 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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I would suggest chosing insecticides specific for the pests you are trying to control. If there was a "one size fits all" then there wouldn't be so many different products. Some insecticides that control one type of insect may cause a population increase in something else. Starting with something low toxicity and broad spectrum though (except maybe for your beetles), you could try insecticidal soap.

But, if the Ortho product was used as per the label and still damaged plants that are said to be OK with it on the label, you might want to call the toll-free phone number on the container and tell them what happened.
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May 31, 2018 1:53 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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I can't guide toward a cide, but be sure to read the labels. And never say you've failed at gardening, you've learned something, and got a little exercise. ;)

As far as the ants on the watermelon, ants are farmers of aphids and scale insects. They put them on plants to collect the honeydew that those critters secrete. When you see ants on a plant, look for the reason. A "bait"' that ants carry back to their nest that kills the whole colony is probably the best approach to deal with those nefarious creatures.

Best luck!
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May 31, 2018 1:58 PM CST
VA
I followed the directions and it still damaged my plants. I have already sent an email to Ortho explaining what my experience was with the product. I've got no reply yet so I googled garden forums and found this site. Thanks to everyone for your input.
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May 31, 2018 2:54 PM CST
Name: greene
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I'm sorry but Home Defense is for use indoors and to create a barrier around the perimeter of the home...thus the name, Home Defense. It was not intended for use elsewhere. There are several different insecticides specific for certain insects and for use on certain plants. One size does not fit all.

Oh, and by contacting Ortho, the best you can hope for is a refund of product price...not to recoup the cost of the damaged plants.

You may want to consider natural methods in the future.
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May 31, 2018 3:48 PM CST
VA
Not looking to recover anything. Just wanted to inform them the product is not safe for fruit and vegetables. The label states specifically vegetables and fruit trees but do not use this product.
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Jun 1, 2018 7:36 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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The product label in the link I pasted clearly says to not use it inside.
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Jun 1, 2018 8:40 AM CST
Name: Mindi Hammerstone
Tracy, CA (Zone 9b)
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Welcome Welcome!

I would try to soak everything really good to try to get that stuff to wash away as best as you can.

What's the condition today?

Good luck 🍀

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Jun 1, 2018 3:09 PM CST
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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For aphids, spray with one tablespoon regular Dawn dish soap in a gallon of water.

For ants, broadcast a light dusting of corn meal, in and, around your whole garden, out to around a 15 foot perimeter.

For Beatles, mix up some neem oil, and give your plants a couple drinks with it. It's systematic, and natural. 👍👍.

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