Plant ID forum: What is this mystery vine??

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North-Central Texas
Skye3
Jun 1, 2018 7:47 AM CST
I assumed this was a type of morning glory as in years past in the same area, a vine had light purple blooms. I had thought to propagate this and add it to other areas but upon some research the leaf shape is not right for morning glories or bindweed. I have searched and searched and cannot figure out what it is. It didn't bloom this morning. It does seem to have some little yellow balls in some areas that I am not sure of. Maybe new leaves or blooms? Any ideas? It's bothering me that I don't know what it is! I want to pull it out if it isn't going to bloom.
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North-Central Texas
Skye3
Jun 1, 2018 8:10 AM CST
Could it be Carolina snailseed?? I just happened to finally see something pretty similar by googling and that's what it was. If so, I should probably get rid of it??
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moth
Jun 1, 2018 10:02 AM CST
could be legnephora moorei (menispermaceae)
North-Central Texas
Skye3
Jun 1, 2018 10:10 AM CST
moth said:could be legnephora moorei (menispermaceae)


It seems that here in Texas it may be the same thing as a Carolina snail plant. Not sure. But they look identical.

Thanks!
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plantladylin
Jun 1, 2018 10:14 AM CST
The leaves don't look quite like Morning Glory and the little yellow balls you mention don't match for Morning Glory either. The little balls you are seeing is the fruit of whatever plant it is. Can you possibly upload a photo of those? I wonder if the leaves of Carolina Moonseed (Cocculus carolinus) (a/k/a Carolina Moonseed) are variable in shape? I found this page with phtoos: https://uvalde.tamu.edu/herbar... that look different than those in our database. Here's one photo from our database for comparison to your plant ... it sure looks very similar:

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North-Central Texas
Skye3
Jun 1, 2018 10:30 AM CST
plantladylin said:The leaves don't look quite like Morning Glory and the little yellow balls you mention don't match for Morning Glory either. The little balls you are seeing is the fruit of whatever plant it is. Can you possibly upload a photo of those? I wonder if the leaves / (a/k/a Carolina Moonseed) are variable in shape? I found this page with phtoos: that look different than those in our database. Here's one photo from our database for comparison to your plant ... it sure looks very similar.



I agree it does look very similar. I think it must have just started growing this year because in years past I am very certain a vine had soft purple trumpet like blooms just like morning glory. Here is a close up of the little yellow balls that I assume may grow into berries if they are the Carolina moonseed/snailseed.

With closer inspection the little ball things seem to be a light green not yellow. I've also attached a different group of leaves from the same plant. It is very aggressive, wrapped all the way around my porch railing. I think it needs to go. I would be happy if it was morning glory but I've read the berries are poisonous and I have young children.

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plantladylin
Jun 1, 2018 10:39 AM CST
I'm not really great at comparing photos but those tiny things in your photo do look like immature fruit forming.

I googled and found this picture of unripe/immature fruit for comparison but the leaves look entirely different than those in your photos: http://www.bio.utexas.edu/cour...

Hopefully others will be along soon to offer suggestions to the identity.
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Skye3
Jun 1, 2018 10:40 AM CST
plantladylin said:I'm not really great at comparing photos but those tiny things in your photo do look like immature fruit forming.

I googled and found this picture of unripe/immature fruit for comparison but the leaves look entirely different than those in your photos:

Hopefully others will be along soon to offer suggestions to the identity.


Thank you. I think it's safe to say it's not morning glory and while I'm still curious to get a definite ID, I think it definitely needs to be removed.
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Skye3
Jun 4, 2018 7:59 AM CST
Just to update. I am almost 100% sure it's the Carolina Snailseed/moonseed. I've noticed it pretty much everywhere now. One of my friends has it in her yard too and it's all over my property. I don't know how I'm ever going to get rid of it! I hope my morning glory comes back this year. It's much more enjoyable!
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purpleinopp
Jun 4, 2018 8:09 AM CST
You can let problem vines "drink" poison (RU) from a jar, instead of spraying tons of it all over the place.
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North-Central Texas
Skye3
Jun 4, 2018 11:31 AM CST
I pulled out a lot of it. The roots were like 3 ft long!

Also, I finally found the morning glory/possibly bendweed on my property, I uprooted some and Replanted where I wanted it! Smiling
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