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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 4, 2012 9:56 AM CST

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Dave, When adding or editing a plant name is it possible to add a scroll over window or something to list preferred abbreviations for species or synonym names? We get duplication due to different accepted abbreviations.
Tropicos uses subsp., f., var.
Kew uses subsp., fo., var.
ITIS uses ssp.,
ex.
subspecies = subsp. and ssp. used
forma = f. and fo. used
varietas = var.
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jmorth
Mar 4, 2012 2:07 PM CST
Abbreviation standardization would eliminate a lot of duplication in the DB..
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Mar 4, 2012 2:40 PM CST
That would be nice. Just last night I deleted several duplicates in the lilium species area, preferring subsp. over ssp. Right or wrong, I done did it.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 4, 2012 3:06 PM CST

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Connie, after reading this article at RHS I use subsp. too. It states "...Such populations are often distinguished as subspecies (abbreviated to subsp. or occasionally ssp. but this can easily be confused with spp., the abbreviation for species plural, so is not recommended),..."
http://apps.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantnaming/hownameswo...
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pardalinum
Mar 4, 2012 3:23 PM CST
I read that some time back and it influenced my decision to use subsp.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Mar 5, 2012 11:36 AM CST

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I agree that we should standardize the abbreviations we use and stick with them, enforcing them as needed.

Evan, since you brought this up, do you have a complete list of what should be used? With that, I may be able to program the system to enforce it.

Moreover, if you have a complete list of all the abbreviations, along with the commonly used incorrect corresponding abbreviations, I might be able to script the correction of many incorrect entries.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 5, 2012 4:01 PM CST

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Give me a bit to put a list together.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Mar 16, 2012 11:50 PM CST

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Have any decisions been reached? I see "subsp" and "subsp." and "var" and "var." in the database. Should these abbreviations be followed by a period or not?
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 17, 2012 10:34 AM CST
This would really be helpful, knowing the correct way to present these abbreviations.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 17, 2012 10:43 AM CST

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My bad. Will work it up this WE.
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valleylynn
Mar 17, 2012 12:19 PM CST
Hurray!
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 17, 2012 2:01 PM CST

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Found ICBN on web. Will update tonight with links.
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eclayne
Mar 17, 2012 6:33 PM CST

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Taxonomic abbreviations:

The current ICBN, International Code of Botanical Nomenclature (VIENNA CODE) can be found here: http://ibot.sav.sk/icbn/main.htm

A ranking of taxa and their abbreviations can be found here: http://ibot.sav.sk/icbn/frameset/0009Ch1Art005.htm#recA

Division II, Chapter I, Article 4.2 provides a more complete ranking of taxa.

A list of abbreviations can be found here: http://ibot.sav.sk/icbn/frameset/0117SubjIndx.htm

International Code of Nomenclature of Cultivated Plants can be found here: http://www.actahort.org/chronica/pdf/sh_10.pdf

For our purposes here are the taxa and the "recommended" abbreviation (in brackets are other abbreviations found):
genus: gen.
subgenus: subg. [subgen.]
sectio (section): sect.
subsectio (subsection): subsect.
series: ser.
subseries: subser.
species: sp.
subspecies: subsp. [ssp.]
varietas (variety): var. [var]
subvarietas (subvariety): subvar.
forma (form): f. [fo.]
subforma (subform): subf.

The bracketed abbreviations are variations found here and there.
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dave
Mar 17, 2012 7:03 PM CST

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So the bracketed variations are deprecated in favor of the non-bracketed.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 17, 2012 7:34 PM CST

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Had to look up deprecated but I believe yes. Green Grin!
The non-bracketed abbr. are those recommended by the ICBN.
Bracketed abbr. are those found on various websites including taxonomic sites like Tropicos and ITIS, as well as Zuzu's reference.

I wonder if the difference in abbreviations is because these are their "recommendations".
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Mar 17, 2012 8:01 PM CST

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Thank you, Evan.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 17, 2012 9:26 PM CST

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Thanks for the nudge.
Evan
Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Mar 18, 2012 3:11 PM CST
Thanks, Evan. So these are what we're going with from now on? Will they be scripted into the current database entries?



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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 18, 2012 3:36 PM CST
Waiting for the answer. : )
Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Mar 19, 2012 12:51 PM CST
Bump.
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