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Name: Richard Jasztal
Hudson, FL 34667 (Zone 9b)
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Jaszman
Jun 4, 2018 4:16 PM CST
Took off the plastic tarps on the boxes and you guys were right, the underside of the plastic condensed water and it dripped back into the top 1" of soil. I removed the top 2" of potting mix and turned all the soil in the boxes. Surprisingly the soil was pretty dry overall, just like when it came out of the bag new. Philip, I promise I will only use the neem oil as you directed, spray the front and back of the plant leafs with the solution for bug control, I wont put any in the water trough. When I am sure the soil is good and dry I will top dress it with diatomaceous earth, and put chicken grit on top of that as Plantmanager has suggested. I would like to try to save the rest of the potting mix (8 large bag$$$$) so I have removed all the extra fertilizer and dumped that in the outside flower garden. I have added 24" long LED grow lights to each grow box at 1" 4" above the plants. Hopefully this will get rid of any more leggy seedlings like what happened to my beans. Plantmanager, if you don't mind I will probably PM you from time to time as you seem to be the grow box person in this group.

I have had the best advice I could hope for from all of you. I intend on working diligently to over come my bad start, and hopefully I will be posting pictures of tomato's, red, yellow, and green peppers, and fresh green beans in a few more months. THANK YOU ALL AGAIN Thank You! Thank You!
Name: Mindi Hammerstone
Tracy, CA (Zone 9b)
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MindiHammerstone
Jun 4, 2018 5:52 PM CST
Good luck Jaszman,

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Sounds like you have everything you need.

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Mindi

echomary1
Jun 9, 2018 8:51 AM CST
I have those fungus gnats as well. They swarmed my house. We bought those yellow sticky gnat traps and they work, but even then we still had some. We found an insecticide that kills them, but they could only be used on my non-edible plants, so I couldn't use it on my herbs, lemon tree, or avocado plant. Another strategy that I used that also helped is to cover the soil with a layer of sand. This keeps the larvae from surviving somehow. Currently, we are gnat free, but it was a battle. Good luck.
Name: Richard Jasztal
Hudson, FL 34667 (Zone 9b)
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Jaszman
Jun 9, 2018 7:56 PM CST
Echomary1, I know what you mean, I have removed the top 1" of soil from the grow boxes, sprayed the plants with neems oil, and dusted the soil with diatomaceous earth, and although it is getting better I still have a problem with them. My florida room is set up so the entire back wall (16') and both side walls (10') are glass doors meant to be opened as another room to the rest of the house by opening the doors and A/C register, and closing the outer windows (20'). This room has always been a favorite of my wife to sit in the mornings, drink her coffee, and read her paper. Since I started my gardening project, got Gnats, and cant open to the rest of the house I have been deep in the do do with the wife. I am hoping that once I re-treat with diatomaceous earth in another week, and put some chicken scratch, or sand, etc I will finally regain control of our room. Keep your fingers crossed for me as these little pests are tough.
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plantmanager
Jun 9, 2018 8:00 PM CST
Richard, I had the same problem most of the winter. They are awful little things, always flying around the computer screen and in the lights. I used about 2 inches of chicken grit on the soil, watered much less, used the sticky traps and small dishes of vinegar. They're finally gone, but the plants have all moved outside for the summer. I am hoping they won't be back next winter!
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Name: Richard Jasztal
Hudson, FL 34667 (Zone 9b)
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Jaszman
Jun 9, 2018 9:43 PM CST
plantmanager, I hope what I'm doing works because if I have to as a last resort I will call my spraying people, bomb the whole room and kill everything. According to my wife "losing the battle is not an option"
Name: Mindi Hammerstone
Tracy, CA (Zone 9b)
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MindiHammerstone
Jun 9, 2018 10:11 PM CST
Good luck🍀

I know how it is to have your spouse get aggrivated with my gardening practices. I wish you good luck and happy Gardening.

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Mindi
Name: greene
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greene
Jun 10, 2018 6:28 AM CST
Great thread!!

The only thing I would like to add is that the fungus gnats can also breed in the drains in your sink and tub. I clean the drains about once a month. Pour salt into the drain, spoon baking soda into the drain, pour about a cup of plain white vinegar into the drain and stand back. It takes a while to work, maybe 1-15 minutes. After it finished bubbling, pour a teakettle of boiling water into the drain.
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sooby
Jun 10, 2018 6:44 AM CST
greene said:Great thread!!

The only thing I would like to add is that the fungus gnats can also breed in the drains in your sink and tub. I clean the drains about once a month. Pour salt into the drain, spoon baking soda into the drain, pour about a cup of plain white vinegar into the drain and stand back. It takes a while to work, maybe 1-15 minutes. After it finished bubbling, pour a teakettle of boiling water into the drain.


Are you sure they are fungus gnats? There are also drain flies, which are different insects:

http://articles.extension.org/...
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Jun 10, 2018 7:44 AM CST
Howdy Richard I tip my hat to you.
Have you drenched (watered) , your soil with a neem oil/water mix ?
Then sprinkled with DE ?

I found a great article on the use of neem oil for your plants & garden.
I wish you would please, read it.
Go to : naturallivingideas.com
Then to : How Neem Oil Works Wonders For Your Plants & Garden.

It's not long article, but it tells you alot.
Please ! Buddy 👍👍😀
Philip 😎😎😎
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Name: genevieve
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genevieve
Jun 10, 2018 7:44 AM CST
I read your first thread and was wondering if they are getting enough sun. you said they are in your florida room which faces north. I live an hour north of your area and my front porch faces north. the only plants I put out there are more of the shade tolerant plants. none of my veggies will do well out there since I only get very little morning sun from the east. just my 2 cents worth.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Jun 10, 2018 8:13 AM CST
@greene 👍😀 !!!
thanks for tip there mary greene, with no capitals, and threee e's. 👍
i figure 🤔 wether it beee fungus gnats, drain gnats, or even an alligator !😀 in the drain. what's gonna survive your cocktail ?
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

of course 🤔 oneee thing should be in capital letters : STAND BACK !😮!
i'd open windows also. deadly vapors ! yikes 😌

ttfn 👍😀
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Name: greene
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greene
Jun 10, 2018 9:51 AM CST
sooby said:
Are you sure they are fungus gnats?


Since I am not the OP I don't know what kind of insects he has. I am only suggesting cleaning the drains as that can be helpful.

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Name: Richard Jasztal
Hudson, FL 34667 (Zone 9b)
You can't be right if your not.
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Jaszman
Jun 10, 2018 5:53 PM CST
[quote="Philipwonel"]Howdy Richard I tip my hat to you.
Have you drenched (watered) , your soil with a neem oil/water mix ?
Then sprinkled with DE ?

Not yet Philip, I'm holding off until the wife looses patience with me, then it's no holds barred, I'm throwing everything and the kitchen sink at them. LOL

Name: Richard Jasztal
Hudson, FL 34667 (Zone 9b)
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Jaszman
Jun 10, 2018 6:22 PM CST
genevieve said:I read your first thread and was wondering if they are getting enough sun. you said they are in your florida room which faces north. I live an hour north of your area and my front porch faces north. the only plants I put out there are more of the shade tolerant plants. none of my veggies will do well out there since I only get very little morning sun from the east. just my 2 cents worth.


genevieve, I live in the middle townhouse, in a row of 5 townhouses connected together. My florida room faces north and I have no property that faces anywhere else, except for my front yard, and my HOA is very restrictive. I couldn't plant a daisy if I wanted. The HOA mows, landscapes, fertilizes, paints the outside, maintains the roof, trims the trees, etc. The downside is I can't do whatever I want to the outside. The upside is I live in a beautiful, perfectly maintained neighborhood where I don't have to work to keep it that way, and I don't loose property value because the guy next door wants to raise hogs.

In short I have 25' of north facing florida room windows, and 60' X 24" flower bed on the north facing outside wall to play with. I haven't started messing with the outside gardens (no legs) but the way I see it is if kids can grow pot plants in a closed up rental house with grow lights, I can do the same with tomato and string beans. Thanks for the tip but I have no options.
Name: Richard Jasztal
Hudson, FL 34667 (Zone 9b)
You can't be right if your not.
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Jaszman
Jun 10, 2018 6:25 PM CST
greene said:Great thread!!

The only thing I would like to add is that the fungus gnats can also breed in the drains in your sink and tub. I clean the drains about once a month. Pour salt into the drain, spoon baking soda into the drain, pour about a cup of plain white vinegar into the drain and stand back. It takes a while to work, maybe 1-15 minutes. After it finished bubbling, pour a teakettle of boiling water into the drain.


May have to do that if any more of these damm things get in the house.
Name: Richard Jasztal
Hudson, FL 34667 (Zone 9b)
You can't be right if your not.
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Jaszman
Jun 10, 2018 6:35 PM CST
[quote="Jaszman

The way I see it is if kids can grow pot plants in a closed up rental house with grow lights, I can do the same with tomato and string beans. Thanks for the tip but I have no options.[/quote]

And if the vegetables don't work out I might try my hand at the pot plants.

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