Irises forum→Can iris be too tiny?

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Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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flukybloom
Jun 2, 2018 9:50 PM CST
These iris have been neglected for 15+ years, mowed over and left to rot basically. What are the chances they will eventually return to their full TB glory?
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UndertheSun
Jun 2, 2018 11:16 PM CST
I've grown some rhizomes that were the size of a peanut (and smaller) and turned them into nice clumps 2 years later. So the chances are good.

Just keep an eye on them in the Summer heat. Since the rhizomes are small, their food and water reserves are small too. So they'll shrivel up if left unattended in the full sun for too long. For better success in our 100+ Summer temps, I planted mine (or placed the pots they were planted in) where they got afternoon shade. I planted them in the full sun when they were big enough to grow with the others. (It took them a year to fatten up.)
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Jun 2, 2018 11:16 PM CST
plant them! they'll be fine.
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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grannysgarden
Jun 3, 2018 2:03 AM CST
Rob and Daphne gave excellent advice. Thumbs up
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Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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flukybloom
Jun 3, 2018 7:08 AM CST
UndertheSun said:Just keep an eye on them in the Summer heat. Since the rhizomes are small, their food and water reserves are small too. So they'll shrivel up if left unattended in the full sun for too long. For better success in our 100+ Summer temps, I planted mine (or placed the pots they were planted in) where they got afternoon shade. I planted them in the full sun when they were big enough to grow with the others. (It took them a year to fatten up.)


I was thinking a pot would work best to start. Thanks for the info!
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UndertheSun
Jun 3, 2018 11:12 AM CST
Here's a recent success story. (Note, there are several failure stories too.)

Coralina (and some others) was (were) eaten by a gopher last year and only this tiny piece was left behind. So I potted it up in hopes of it surviving and so far it has. The other pieces of irises I tried to save were eaten by voles. They were climbing into my 4 inch and 1 gallon pots.

Tiny rhizome planted in a 1 (or 2?) inch pot. Photo taken on 5/31/2017
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Here is that same Coralina one year later. Hurray! Photo taken 30 minutes ago on 6/3/2018. This will go back into the ground this year.
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Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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flukybloom
Jun 3, 2018 2:33 PM CST
Now that gives me hope! These are all from my mom's old iris beds, beautiful varieties and colors. I'm hoping to be able to share them back with her in a couple years!
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Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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flukybloom
Jun 22, 2018 1:40 PM CST
Just wanted to throw this out there...I generally have a "leave it and see what happens" attitude with gardening. I put the iris in a couple shallow tupperware containers just to see how they'd do, and not let them get too dry before we move, they're on our deck that gets morning sun and afternoon shade. AND THEY'RE GROWING Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! all the rhizomes are firm, lots of healthy roots, and at least 3 of them are sporting new, strong leaves!
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They're going to need a new pot soon, but wasn't expecting to find so much improvement in just a couple weeks!
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Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Lestv
Jun 22, 2018 2:06 PM CST
Give them a lot more soil and they will take off. If they have been growing this long, they are acclimatized to your weather, so a nice clean bed of soil will be about all it takes to encourage them to grow. If you are in Iowa you will want to plant them in the ground in time to get established before your first frost.
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Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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flukybloom
Jun 22, 2018 2:21 PM CST
Leslie, we are in IA but 3 weeks from today we'll be moved to Tennessee. Finding a good spot for these is at the top of my list!
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South central PA (Zone 6a)
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DaveinPA
Jun 23, 2018 5:48 PM CST
Your tiny iris rhizomes will do fine. Some great advice given here.
When you repot them make sure there is some drainage or you'll have to drain off water after every rain. I am sure they will love their new home after all they have been through.
I have seen nice ones come out of rhizomes smaller than a dime. These are the ones that fall off when a clump is dug and then we later wonder what is growing there.
Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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flukybloom
Jun 23, 2018 7:53 PM CST
Thanks Dave! It's going to be exciting to see what colors these are. I remember some beauties when they were healthy!
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Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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DaisyDo
Jun 24, 2018 12:30 PM CST
Never too tiny. After all, new cultivars are always started from seed. As a matter of fact, this January, I started some Parks "Candy Lily" (a hybrid between blackberry lily and something else to give it a broader range of colors) indoors in peat pots under lights. It's actually not a lily. It's a type of summer blooming iris. I saw blackberry lily for the first time last summer blooming beautifully in a shady garden at Brookside Gardens - under trees. I decided that this was exactly what I needed to fill in, in my dry, shady corners, where many things don't survive well, and where many things get eaten by the groundhogs. It also has the advantage of giving bloom in the middle of the summer, when many perennials aren't blooming. Groundhogs don't seem to like grassy monocots, so that's why I have been putting in more iris of all sorts.

I transplanted them into the garden this spring as soon as it was warm enough, and it looks like they are doing well. I doubt if they'll bloom this summer, but expecting they will next summer, and I will be eager to see what colors I get.
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Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
Sedums Irises Cat Lover Region: Tennessee
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flukybloom
Jun 24, 2018 12:39 PM CST
I got some blackberry lily from my sister last year, was shocked when it bloomed! Hadn't heard of it before then and definitely was NOT expecting those blooms to come from iris leaves! I'm taking some of those to our new place too.
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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Jun 25, 2018 2:59 PM CST
The so called blackberry lily is a member of the iris family
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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DaisyDo
Jun 25, 2018 3:28 PM CST
Yes, these are the Parks "Candy lily" seeds that I planted in January and am now nurturing in my garden https://parkseed.com/parks-can... .

I do hope they turn out to have that range of colors! The regular blackberry lilies I saw flowering at Brookside Gardens were only orange.
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Name: Sara
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
Sedums Irises Cat Lover Region: Tennessee
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flukybloom
Jun 26, 2018 7:38 AM CST
Lucy, I was surprised to discover that. They've quickly become one of my favorites and I hope the ones I left bloom before we move.

DaisyDo, wow! I hope you get a good variety! I don't mind the orange, but I hope the other colors are just as vibrant for you!
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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Jun 26, 2018 9:20 AM CST
Check with Joe Pye Weed's Gardens. While they are famous for their Siberians, they also sell blackberry lilies.

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