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Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
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sangel
Jun 6, 2018 11:45 AM CST
I took thous pictures this winter near my house in a wild, it is proteced area, they growing there each winter.

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UndertheSun
Jun 6, 2018 12:28 PM CST
They are beautiful!
Name: Arlyn
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crowrita1
Jun 6, 2018 1:24 PM CST
Looks like an Aril....where are you located ?
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evelyninthegarden
Jun 6, 2018 1:26 PM CST
UndertheSun said:They are beautiful!


I agree What is your location?

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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Totally_Amazing
Jun 6, 2018 5:14 PM CST
Welcome! to the iris forum sangel. That is a lovely iris Thumbs up
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KentPfeiffer
Jun 6, 2018 7:19 PM CST

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Iris atrofusca I think, but Arils aren't my thing so it could be another, similar, species.
Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
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sangel
Jun 7, 2018 8:56 AM CST
evelyninthegarden said:

I agree What is your location?

@sangel ~ Welcome to the iris forum!!!


Location is Netania, Israel
several more pictures (from last year)




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Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Lestv
Jun 7, 2018 9:29 AM CST
Welcome! to the site.

They look very much like they have aril in them, and your location would be right for growing them. They sure are a pretty color. Kent's suggestion of Iris atrofusca (a species iris) also looks like a good possibility.
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UndertheSun
Jun 7, 2018 12:42 PM CST
Welcome sangel! Welcome!
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shizen
Jun 7, 2018 9:18 PM CST
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lovemyhouse
Jun 7, 2018 9:24 PM CST
Welcome!
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iciris
Jun 7, 2018 10:11 PM CST
And another welcome sangel Welcome!

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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Jul 27, 2018 7:01 AM CST
Love those iris, Ron. If you don't know, ask around and see if you can get the identity confirmed and then put them in the data base here. Aril species need all the protection and knowledge they can get.
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Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
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sangel
Jul 27, 2018 8:00 AM CST
needrain said:Love those iris, Ron. If you don't know, ask around and see if you can get the identity confirmed and then put them in the data base here. Aril species need all the protection and knowledge they can get.

you can see basic information here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Jul 27, 2018 8:35 AM CST
Yes, if it's I. atropurpea. It does look like it to me from the photos, but I wouldn't be willing to make a definite i.d. from a photo. I thought that since these are growing wild in a protected area the identity might be established. Israel has been really excellent about trying to protect the aril species habitats of those that are indigenous to the country. Jordan also has some habitat protection where some arils grow, I believe, e.g I. petrana. Sadly, in much of the arils native habitats there has been tremendous pressure on them and some are believed to already be extinct. Unfortunately they are homebodies and have not been very adaptable when removed from their ancestral locations.

If you do know these are I. atropurpea, it would be nice to have a few photos recorded here in the database.
Donald
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Jul 27, 2018 8:41 AM CST
Yes, if it's I. atropurpurea. It does look like it to me from the photos, but I wouldn't be willing to make a definite i.d. from a photo. I thought that since these are growing wild in a protected area the identity might be established. Israel has been really excellent about trying to protect the aril species habitats of those that are indigenous to the country. Jordan also has some habitat protection where some arils grow, I believe, e.g. I. petrana. Sadly, in much of the arils native habitats there has been tremendous pressure on them and some are believed to already be extinct. Unfortunately they are homebodies and have not been very adaptable when removed from their ancestral locations and attempts to do that have put further pressure on the native populations.

If you do know these are I. atropurpurea, it would be nice to have a few photos recorded here in the database.
Donald
Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
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sangel
Jul 27, 2018 8:42 AM CST
yes, we even have a neighborhood in Netania that by the name of this plant (ARGAMAN, ארגמן ) . There is huge amount people that coming to see them when they are blooming.It usually happens after the first big rains. Some other plants are blooming then as well.

P.S. I never tried to take a seeds from them, and grow them on my balcony.
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Raises cows Plant Identifier
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needrain
Jul 27, 2018 8:53 AM CST
sangel said:yes, we even have a neighborhood in Netania that by the name of this plant (ARGAMAN, ארגמן ) . There is huge amount people that coming to see them when they are blooming.It usually happens after the first big rains. Some other plants are blooming then as well.

P.S. I never tried to take a seeds from them, and grow them on my balcony.


Provided that only a few seeds are removed, that is the only responsible means for trying to get new populations established where they will grow. In the past, it was often wholesale removal of the rhizomes. I think, much like poaching wild protected animals, irresponsible and often illegal removal of rhizomes still occur - even in protected locations.
Donald
Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
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sangel
Jul 27, 2018 9:09 AM CST
here some more info and pictures

http://www.wildflowers.co.il/e...

Pancratium maritimum is also blooming nearby on the cost line
East TN
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pdermer1x
Jul 27, 2018 9:12 AM CST
@sangel - Welcome to the forum! Those are gorgeous! I never saw them - probably never got to the right spot at the right time. Israel's come a long way about environmental protections -- hope it continues in the right direction (unlike our U.S. current situation!)

I've got a totally different flower (non-iris) stuck in my brain, though. Do you ever get down to the Negev after rains? I was in Sde Boker in the '70s and remember this gorgeous wild flower - looked like a flowering onion or lily (what did I know then/what do I know now?!). Large, round flower head (actually, lots of little flowers arranged in the round head). Phenomenal, very sweet fragrance (so probably not an onion). It had thorns or spikes on the flower head. I've always been dying to know what it is. I've tried emailing folks at the field station but never got an answer....

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