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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 18, 2018 9:44 AM CST

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Perhaps those two should meet (pollen swap).
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 18, 2018 10:12 AM CST
Mine recurved a little more after a day in the sun.
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Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 18, 2018 5:10 PM CST

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Sister of Pizzazz x 4n pollen mix
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Almost missed this guy!
Tracey
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 18, 2018 5:14 PM CST

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That's a real nice one, mags. Was your pollen mix OT or 4n trumpet or both?
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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Leftwood
Jul 18, 2018 5:21 PM CST
It looks like there is a bit of L. henryi in the background somewhere, as well.
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 18, 2018 6:16 PM CST

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Trumpet and OT, anything blooming at the time.
Tracey
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 18, 2018 6:19 PM CST

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That's kinda like how I do it too. Stir it all up and use it. I do keep a record of what I used (ingredients Hilarious! )
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Jul 19, 2018 10:37 AM CST
Nice solid yellow Tracey!
Very happy with this new seedling
Betty Sturley x Martie

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Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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Leftwood
Jul 19, 2018 3:17 PM CST
When I use "mixed" pollen, I don't (mix them). I just take the individual stamens, hold them all by their filaments between two fingers arranged like a fan. When I pollenate, each stamen gets a turn on the stigma. Don't think I have ever used more than five or six stamens, though. More could get a bit cumbersome.
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Jul 19, 2018 5:28 PM CST

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Designer series x lion heart
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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Leftwood
Jul 19, 2018 6:58 PM CST
A friend just sent me a photo of one of my old crosses in her garden. (So she said.) The cross is Madam Butterfly x White Henryi, from 2008. But I think it is "just" White Henryi.
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 19, 2018 7:15 PM CST
Nice seedling Rick! Looks like the pollen parent won most of the gene inheritance.

I had a Griesbach seedling open today. Jim calls these the diffused pattern. Grabbed the pollen to try it on a mature Griesbach stem with the same pattern. See what happens.
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Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
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Leftwood
Jul 19, 2018 8:38 PM CST
D'Oh!
Oh the power of suggestion......
I hardly even glanced at that photo. Yes, I am pretty sure it is actually White Henryi. I had given her that one, too.
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 20, 2018 7:17 AM CST

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Tracey's mixed pollen: grab anther and swipe once avross stigma, grab another anther from another variety and swipe once across stigma. Repeat until you have run out of anthers or ideas for this. May the best pollen/pollens win. I've never confidently mastered the actual mixing of pollen. And since I want every pollen to have a fair shot, I find this is about as good as I can get. Normally I don't do more than 4 or 5. Sometimes just two, and in that case, I make it "exactly even" in my swiping coverage. Hilarious!
Tracey
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Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Jul 20, 2018 7:31 AM CST
Interesting the techniques. Supposedly Leslie Woodriff would carry around matchboxes full of mixed pollen. I have used that method with a paper cup and I just keep dumping anthers in from hopefully fertile OTS. Also Ole Larsen does another method where he covers a stigma with one type of pollen and then over the next few days goes over with other pollens. He has gotten quite a few seeds on "sterile" OTs that way. Last year I was able to obtain seed from Anastasia and African Lady using the completely mixed method.
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 20, 2018 7:43 AM CST

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This year I did start using the method of hitting with mixed pollen days after the initial mixed pollen hit. I have a double OT I've hit with this method, or if I feel the heat index is greater one day. On difficult pod parents, this is a good method where I have obtained seed in difficult cases as well.
Tracey
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Jul 20, 2018 8:59 AM CST
Tracey what's the double OT look like?
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 20, 2018 11:32 AM CST

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I'm told it's a first generation double OT seedling. I like that it has all of the flower parts too Smiling
This is NOT my breeding, just to be clear.
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Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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Leftwood
Jul 20, 2018 2:32 PM CST
It is sometimes a common practice with many species (unrelated to Lilium) to hand pollenate the same flowers multiple times. Usually, I think, it is because the best timeline for best pollenizing isn't really known, so the propagator is hedging his bet. I can say that I absolutely do have better results pollenizing every couple hours with my Phemeranthus spp. (The flowers only open for a half day or so.) I don't see why such a trait might not extend to Lilium. And with attempts to succeed in a wider cross, there might be other advantages, too.

And it's time to pollenate my Phemeranthus brevifolia right now....
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Seed Starter Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Leftwood
Jul 23, 2018 11:10 AM CST
One of Lisa's (Buggycrazy) Awesome seedlings. Flowers are dwarf for a trumpet type. I like it very much.
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An open pollenated seedling of one of Pard's 2006 trumpet cross. Seems like this one might be more dwarf, too.
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White Henryi x Sarabande
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A dirty cross of L. lancifolium var. flaviflorum x Kentucky
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