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Name: David Lucketts, Va (Zone 7a)              greenthumb99 Jun 10, 2018 6:19 AM CST |
Does anyone recognize this rather distinctive Iris? Thanks for any help. Earth is a galactic insane asylum where the inmates have been left in charge. |
Name: Evelyn Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)          evelyninthegarden Jun 10, 2018 10:09 AM CST |
David ~  to the Iris forum.I don't know what it is, but someone with more experience in historic irises may know. @crowrita "Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson |
Name: Arlyn Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)     crowrita1 Jun 10, 2018 8:16 PM CST |
| A "possible" *might* be "Fairy Queen".....although there were several irises frm this same era that are very similar: this is a link to Fritz' site page, that shows Fairy Queen": http://irisparadise.com/Iris/S... |
Name: Arlyn Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a) crowrita1 Jun 10, 2018 8:17 PM CST |
| The link didn't take me where I wanted to go, but....go to English Breeders....and then John Salter |
Name: David Lucketts, Va (Zone 7a) greenthumb99 Jun 11, 2018 2:12 AM CST |
| Thank you crowrital, 'Fairy Queen' looks good to me. I really appreciate your help. Earth is a galactic insane asylum where the inmates have been left in charge. |
Name: Kent Pfeiffer Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)           |
| Please don't add pictures to the database based on what an iris might be. |
Name: David Lucketts, Va (Zone 7a) greenthumb99 Jun 11, 2018 9:13 AM CST |
| Compare these photos: 1) My photo  2) Photo from reference site Even the veining is a match. Short of a DNA workup, what would br sufficient? Earth is a galactic insane asylum where the inmates have been left in charge. |
Name: Kent Pfeiffer Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b) |
| As Arlyn said, there are several irises that look similar. Here is just one example: Now, personally, I think your iris looks more like 'Fairy Queen' than 'Mrs. Horace Darwin'. But, that doesn't mean it IS (either one). Generally, the way people attempt to verify the identity of an unknown iris is to acquire a rhizome of a potential match from a reliable source and grow the two plants next to each other to see if they really are identical. More often than not, a picture of the flower by itself isn't enough to confirm the ID. |
Name: Bonnie Sojourner Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a) Magnolia zone         grannysgarden Jun 11, 2018 9:34 AM CST |
| David you will need to acquire the iris that you think is a match and grow it near your unidentified one to make sure color, height, time of bloom, PBF (purple based foliage) if any match, etc.... Once they both bloom at the same time dissect a bloom from each one to make sure they are identical. Then you will have a match. I know this sounds involved but it is very important not to ID an iris on what it looks like it is. Good luck. Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing? |
Name: Bonnie Sojourner Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a) Magnolia zone grannysgarden Jun 11, 2018 9:35 AM CST |
Cross posted with Kent.  Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing? |
Name: David Lucketts, Va (Zone 7a) greenthumb99 Jun 11, 2018 10:39 AM CST |
| I uploaded the photo from the reference site and I'll have my photo removed from the plant file. Earth is a galactic insane asylum where the inmates have been left in charge. |
Name: Arlyn Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a) crowrita1 Jun 11, 2018 2:54 PM CST |
| Getting an "exact match" to put a name on an iris is a very tricky thing to do ! As was stated above, without growing a "known example "(if one can be found !) next to it, in the same soil and climatic conditions....and then doing a REAL close examination of both plants (usually a "dissection " to compare every part of the bloom)the best you can hope for is a "probably". I applaud Kent's efforts to keep the data base as accurate as possible. We have reached the point where there are so many "wrong iris" out there in "irisville" that finding a "true one" is pretty hard to do. Most data bases...if you look at all the pix of certain cultivars....are likely to show several DIFFERENT irises, under the same name! While , for most of us that have the :iris virus", a "Named Plant" is a great thing to have, and, "putting a name TO a plant can be a fun...an educational thing to do....we have to ask ourselves if a "name" is REALLY necessary ! If we can't be at least 99% sure of ID, I think (IMHO) that we need to call it a "noid", and enjoy it that way ! I've acquired a LOT of irises, over the years....from all kinds of sources , private gardens, iris buddies, vendors, hybridizers...you name it....and the number of "noid" irises that I have amassed I staggering ! We can't do anything but our "best shot" when it comes to sending the "correct" iris....mistakes are easy to make....you can drop one, put it in the wrong pile, forget to mark it, let the clumps grow together, dig the WRONG clump, etc., etc. But we CAN be vigilant in not naming something without all the "due process " of ID groundwork. All these irises we grow , (again, IMHO) aren't REALLY ours! We're just keeping them going for the gardeners that are yet to be born! So, if they HAVE a name, we need to do our best not to LOSE it, and, if they DON'T have a name, they need passed on as "maybe's", or "probables", or "noids'...so we don't muddy the water for those 'future irisarians".  |
Name: Bonnie Sojourner Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a) Magnolia zone grannysgarden Jun 11, 2018 3:26 PM CST |
Wise words, Arlyn. Thank you.  Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing? |
Northern CA (Zone 9a)    iciris Jun 11, 2018 5:22 PM CST |
 • “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous |
Name: Joshua Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b) Köppen Climate Zone Cfb         |
greenthumb99 said:I uploaded the photo from the reference site and I'll have my photo removed from the plant file. Unless you have permission from the reference site to do so, please don't upload other people's photos to the database. If you are posting photos from other sites in the forums, please include a link back to the source. Plant Authorities: Catalogue of Life (Species) --- International Cultivar Registration Authorities (Cultivars) --- RHS Orchid Register --- RHS Lilium Register My Notes: Orchid Genera HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Traits HTML PDF --- Lilium Species Crosses HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Species Diagram The current profile image is that of Iris 'Volcanic Glow'. |
Name: Evelyn Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a) evelyninthegarden Jun 11, 2018 7:56 PM CST |
grannysgarden said:Wise words, Arlyn. Thank you. "Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson |
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