Daylilies forum: Buds with green points?

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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
caitlinsgarden
Jun 10, 2018 8:11 PM CST
I just noticed that some of my DLs have buds with sharp green points sticking up. I never really studied the buds before. I plan to write down the names and see if they are in the same family or what. Does anyone know what I am talking about?
Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
Jun 10, 2018 9:58 PM CST
I don't have many DL's that are ruffled. But there is one that is quite ruffled and if I recall, the bud on that one has points protruding out. Check to see if the ones that have the "points" are real ruffled DL'S. Just a thought.
Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 11, 2018 12:14 AM CST
@caitlinsgarden Can you take a picture and post it? I think I understand what you're describing, but I'd like to be sure before I can confirm what Sue is talking about
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Name: Judy
Louisiana (Zone 9b)
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judydu2
Jun 11, 2018 3:11 AM CST
If they are along the seams of the buds, they are most likely part of the bloom's edge which could be teeth, tentacles, knobs, etc.

If they are random on the outside of the buds, it's indicative of thrips infestation.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jun 11, 2018 3:58 AM CST
Is it like Larry's pictures, the last two in this thread?

https://garden.org/thread/view...

If so, as Judy said, they are usually attributed to thrips (or aphids but it's definitely not aphids). However, the cause has never actually been proven so it may be thrips or it may be something else.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 12, 2018 12:22 PM CST
Here is a photo I took this morning, found these bumps .
Thumb of 2018-06-12/Seedfork/c601be

Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jun 12, 2018 12:51 PM CST
Good picture, Larry. Have you had the leafminer there for long?
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 12, 2018 1:04 PM CST
The leaf miner has been here for several years, don't know exactly when it showed up, but that black fly shows up in a lot of my photos of daylilies.
Name: Julie
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
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floota
Jun 12, 2018 2:09 PM CST
The picture of Larrys showing the buds with "bumps" looks like thrips damage to me. When judging daylily exhibitions, if we (judges panels) see this, we take off points for thrips damage.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 12, 2018 3:43 PM CST
I will have to look again and see if I find any of the little critters, I will do the paper test again.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 12, 2018 4:00 PM CST
I will do the clip board with a white sheet of paper test again and see if any thrips show up. So far I have never seen any, but that does not mean they are not there.
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jun 14, 2018 10:48 AM CST
What is leafminer?
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jun 14, 2018 11:02 AM CST
josieskid said:What is leafminer?


https://www.daylilies.org/ahs_...
Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
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cybersix
Jun 15, 2018 3:26 AM CST
Most of my buds have green points. I've always associated with temperature. I'll pay more attention when temps will really go up.
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
caitlinsgarden
Jun 16, 2018 7:58 AM CST
I need better daylily terminology. I am not talking about the actual buds, but rather the green part that surrounds the bud. it is a normal part of the scape, but distinctive.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jun 16, 2018 8:10 AM CST
caitlinsgarden said:I need better daylily terminology. I am not talking about the actual buds, but rather the green part that surrounds the bud. it is a normal part of the scape, but distinctive.


Do you mean the bracts?

https://www.daylilies.org/ahs_...
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 16, 2018 8:20 AM CST
Here is a good diagram showing the parts of a daylily. It makes a good reference chart.
http://www.shieldsgardens.com/...
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jun 16, 2018 8:36 AM CST
Seedfork said:Here is a good diagram showing the parts of a daylily. It makes a good reference chart.
http://www.shieldsgardens.com/...


Although note it should be spelled pistil, not pistol, since daylilies don't usually engage in armed combat.

The AHS has a similar diagram (with correct spelling)
https://www.daylilies.org/ahs_...
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Region: Alabama
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Seedfork
Jun 16, 2018 8:52 AM CST
Looks like pistil to me? But I do actually like the AHS chart diagram.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Region: Alabama
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Seedfork
Jun 16, 2018 8:57 AM CST
Well, it is spelled correctly in the upper part of the diagram. I did not notice that in the lower part. I do like the AHS diagram .

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