Daylilies forum: Poly blooms and oddities

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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 16, 2018 10:22 PM CST
I recall a thread like this from last summer... I liked it, so I'm starting this year's.
Edge Ahead. I kept looking at the bloom, trying to figure out what was different. Then it dawned on me...

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First one of the year...
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 17, 2018 3:56 PM CST
These are the only three I can recall so far this year in my garden.

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Edited to add:
Well, I did have these four poly blooms at one time on 'Chief Four Fingers':
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jun 17, 2018 9:28 PM CST
I have an unknown daylily seedling that I thought had produced a poly .... once. But it seems every bloom is a poly for the past several days.

Today's bloom:
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Prior bloom:
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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 17, 2018 9:36 PM CST
Might be worth keeping as a breeder if you like the polys! Thumbs up
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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 22, 2018 10:24 AM CST
A fused bloom on Viracocha
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Name: Jill
Baltimore, MD (Zone 7b)
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Jillz
Jun 24, 2018 3:47 PM CST
WILD ONE poly

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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 27, 2018 3:12 PM CST
Lilac Snow with a poly on two separate scapesThumb of 2018-06-27/ShakespearesGarden/726358
Smuggler's Gold
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Pretender with a fused bloom
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Name: Jill
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Jillz
Jun 28, 2018 6:32 AM CST
Poly LOUD GIRLS

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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 28, 2018 6:57 PM CST
Might need that one with three of my girls still at home... Pretty : )
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Name: Teresa
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Jun 28, 2018 9:07 PM CST
I love polys! Is there any data on which ones are the most fertile?
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Jul 1, 2018 3:51 PM CST
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Wispy Rays

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Seedling


Barbara Mitchell

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Clear Mountain Morning

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Fooled Me - seedling

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Isolde

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Seedling - heading to the compost
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 1, 2018 4:18 PM CST
@Hazelcrestmikeb
Nice ones.
Mike is the seedling headed to the compost all splotchy due to rain? How long did you keep it before deciding to compost it?
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jul 1, 2018 4:40 PM CST
Yeah, how much of a chance do you give them? I got a couple of ugly ones right off the bat myself. Almost made me want to give it all up!
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Jul 1, 2018 5:14 PM CST
Larry and Mary it doesn't seem to matter, rain or not. I am no authority on seedlings but I don't have the time to baby them. I recalled the same traits last year. Mary depending on the genes, I would give it another. Mine is from a dip that was bought as a rebloomer. I have no connection to convince me otherwise. Euromazing is on the same path also
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 1, 2018 5:43 PM CST
Thanks, two years it seems on that one was enough to believe the splotches were not going to improve, and it was not just on heavy rain days, but the normal pattern. Thumbs up
Name: Tim
West Chicago, IL (Zone 5a)
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Lyshack
Jul 1, 2018 5:55 PM CST
Polly Esther (Davisson)
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Dyna Girl (Owen-P)
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Black-eyed Stella (Roberson)
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Seedling
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Name: Tara
Cedar Rapids, Iowa (Zone 5a)
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IAgrl
Jul 2, 2018 10:03 AM CST
Help on understanding what to call this 3yr old seedling... this is its first year showing this mutation? The first bloom I thought was an accident, however now a few days later an exact copy on a different scape! Not pretty in color, but holy moly! Would this be a triple fused bloom? Confused

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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jul 2, 2018 10:23 AM CST
Welcome!
From what I could tell on doubled, poly, or fused blooms is...
Double and poly blooms will have only one pistil
On a fused bloom, I see two pistils.
Correct me where I'm wrong, folks!

Smuggler's Gold poly bloom
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Smuggler's Gold fused bloom
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I don't have tons of experience with seedlings, but I've read that it can take a few years for a bloom to hit its final shape, size, color... Perhaps it's a double bloom that just needed the time to show its stuff?
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Name: Tara
Cedar Rapids, Iowa (Zone 5a)
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IAgrl
Jul 2, 2018 10:35 AM CST
Thanks for clarifying!

Yeah it only has one pistil... none of my doubles look like this! It's just so symmetrical... it seems odd. Most of my doubles have a rippled appearance with more petals in the center. Anyone have experience with a double showing like this? Keep it or compost it? I'm making garden space in this bed.

Thank You!
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Jul 2, 2018 10:58 AM CST
A normal bloom has three sepals, three petals, six stamens (three for the three sepals and three for the three petals) and one pistil (made up of three fused parts).
A poly bloom might have four sepals, four petals, eight stamens and one pistil.
Or
A poly bloom might five sepals, five petals, 10 stamens and one pistil.
Or
A poly bloom might have six sepals, six petals, 12 stamens and two pistils.

I am not certain that a simple count of flower parts could identify/separate some poly blooms with two pistils from fused flowers.
Maurice

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