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Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Jun 24, 2018 1:50 PM CST
First of all, I would like to ask the question, are broken patterns in irises due to a virus, similar to the the "broken tulips".

Which ones are you growing and are they weak or strong?
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Jun 24, 2018 3:02 PM CST
i have three that are listed as broken patterned; all kasperek's 'hyenasicle', 'anaconda love', and 'squid squirt'. (more recently, cannot remember its name by a different hybridizer, and newer...gave it away. a very dark iris with broken white lines. i got it as a bonus but didn't fit in 😉.)

in my former gardens (again kasperk's) 'baboon's bottom' several different 'gnu'(s), and several others whose names elude me were, overall, more temperamental, and not as robust as some of my other iris.

the rhizomes i've had tend to be small and stay small from this hybridizer. but as you know 'hyenasicle' bloomed twice this yr. in april, then again in mid-june. this took two years. maybe others have had different experiences, and please share them i would like to know, too.

on-the-other-hand, 'anaconda love' has not bloomed in its 2 yr. in my garden. it was a very tiny rhizome, and today, is just about a 5-6 rhiz. clump.

whereas, i got 'squid' last year as a 1/2" potato. one of the tiniest, most pathetic shriveled potato with no roots, i've recieved from a commercial grower....i think i paid $7.50 plus $11.50 for shipping. the poor thing continues to stuggle, and only has one fan on the original nub. needless-to-say, i don't think i will be ordering from that grower again. Sighing!

i couldn't find 'ss' anywhere else Shrug! Shrug! . i just hope it continues to grow. i'm optimistic because its fan is about 10" tall.😄👏🏻.
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UndertheSun
Jun 24, 2018 3:10 PM CST
Horton's has Squid Squirt for $5. http://www.hortonirisgarden.co...
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Jun 24, 2018 3:31 PM CST
thanks, rob, i will keep that in mind.

i have an order in to horton's for this year. i am having problems finding space and pots for all that are coming in. need to cull about 10-11, but were of those (that )didn't bloom this year, and i need to evaluate the flowers again. if they don't bloom next year, they'll have had their chance and will go out the door in 2019.

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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Totally_Amazing
Jun 24, 2018 4:37 PM CST
I grow Broken Pattern, Broken Record, Gnu, Silver Streak, Squid Squirt and Toucan Tango.

Broken Pattern and Silver Streak are thriving. Gnu, Squid Squirt and Toucan Tango are reasonably new and going well but are a bit slower to clump.
Broken Record is a poor performer for me. When I purchased it, I received a rhizome that was smaller than my first year seedlings. This bloom season will the the 4th year I've waited to see it bloom and I think it needs another year at least.

Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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janielouy
Jun 24, 2018 4:51 PM CST
I am not a fan of broken colors but I do have Peggy Ann which I think is horrid and Gnu and Isn't This Something which I think is a broken color.
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Jun 24, 2018 4:59 PM CST
Robin and Daphne ~ Thank You!

Jane ~ Are they weak or strong? If you don't like an iris in your garden....it's time to move it out! Right?
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Lestv
Jun 24, 2018 7:59 PM CST
They aren't weak just because they are broken colored. It is an unstable gene causing the color variation. And the hybridizer chose to work with the broken color. Some are better growers than others just like every other bearded iris. Bewilderbeast is one of the most reliable bloomers in my gardens. Gnus Flash on of the least. But I could say that about many hybridizers iris.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Jun 24, 2018 11:42 PM CST
Leslie ~ Thank You!
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Jun 25, 2018 2:47 AM CST
thanks leslie. i appreciate other experiences. my first broken irises i received from the original source. as i recall, they were not huge rhizomes, and took their time clumping.

while the size of the rhizome doesn't always indicate its performance, the particular ones i happened to choose weren't among my best performers.

the rhizome for 'squid squirt' i happened to receive for this garden has been the tiniest i've gotten from a commercial grower. while this may not be the experience for everyone, i'm just saying this happened to me.😜 when i've dug my own broken colored rhizomes to split before and now, they were comparatively much smaller than other irises. i'm not trying to put the hybridizer in any negative light, i am just typing my observations as they have happened to me for the ones that i grow.

i still adore the broken irises i've chosen, and will continue to grow them despite my challenges Hilarious!

i agree, not everyone loves them. they are ones that you either like or not. just as some like lots of frills and flounces or not, or extra horns and spoons or not.

i don't love all of them, but i do appreciate all of them.

thank you everyone for posting pictures of your gardens and flowers. i also want to thank everyone for candidly standing up for their favorite flower, and posting what they like or dislike about it. this information is very helpful to me whilst deciding on a particular one to choose for purchase.




Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Jun 25, 2018 2:56 PM CST
The broken color is genetic not a virus.

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