Roses forum→How late in the season do you still plant?

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Northern MO (Zone 6a)
ac91z6
Jun 24, 2018 6:46 PM CST
Obviously this varies by zone and when your dormant season is. But when do you guys stop planting for the season? Does it vary by rose type for you - for example teas/noisettes before summer, shrubs/floribundas before first frost/winter?

I'm in a cold z6a, but our summers tend to be hot and humid - several days over 100 in late July and August. First frost tends to be mid/late October, but what we get for a deep freeze usually doesn't hit until late November at the earliest. What are your conditions like, and how do they affect planting times for you?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jun 24, 2018 7:12 PM CST

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We don't get much frost here, but we also don't get year-round rain, so I like to start planting in November, when our rainy season starts. The rainy season usually lasts until April, so I can continue planting without any extra effort until then. I also can continue to plant between April and November, but only if I water the new plants at least once a day because there's no rainfall to supplement my efforts in those months. We had a day of rain in August last year and my cats were utterly astonished. They hung back under the eaves and were reluctant to venture any farther. I think they didn't trust it.
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jun 24, 2018 8:09 PM CST
Like Zuzu, I usually plant in the fall as it means less watering. We do get some summer rain, but it is not reliable. Recently, however, we have had a couple of unusually cold spells in the winter ( down below 20F) which killed a few of my late fall plantings.
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Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Jun 24, 2018 8:16 PM CST
I am waiting for cool weather before planting roses as it is difficult to keep them moist in the ground, and I find it easier when they are in the pots.

I have planted bare root, dormant, roses in the late fall, and they came nice the following spring.
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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MargieNY
Jun 24, 2018 10:23 PM CST
I recall reading that you plant 6 weeks before the first frost.
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Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Jun 25, 2018 2:30 AM CST
I won't hesitate to plant roses in October here. I just make sure to keep an eye on the weather before planting then heavily mulch.
Name: Mindy
Michigan (Zone 6b)
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HummingbirdRose
Jun 25, 2018 5:49 AM CST
I'm in zone 6b, lower Western Michigan. I will plant new roses up until around September. Any I've ordered for late summer/fall delivery always get potted up and over wintered in my unheated garage and not planted out until the following spring.
Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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nippstress
Jun 25, 2018 2:41 PM CST
Wow, you folks in zone 6 are way more adventuresome than I am. I have had no luck planting anything, even potted roses, after about mid-June. I don't find that they have enough of a root system to survive the winter. That may be some of the many differences between zone 5 and zone 6, since there are roses that do fine in zone 6 (like Love Song) that absolutely will not survive here regardless of protection. Maybe the root system matters more here than even a zone warmer.
Or maybe it's just me (but I have a lot of roses so I must be doing something right)
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Name: Amanda
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pepper23
Jun 25, 2018 4:55 PM CST
If they don't have a good enough root system then I leave them in their pots and bury the pots in my veggie bed. It gets quite a bit of southern sun so they almost always survive winter when I do it that way. But I have had luck doing late plantings as long as I mulch good.
Northern MO (Zone 6a)
ac91z6
Jun 25, 2018 10:04 PM CST
I'm going to go ahead and plant what I've already got, but I've got one climber that suddenly started looking bad (I posted it in the "Would you bother planting this rose?" thread) which will probably need a replacement. I'll hold off on that until next year, as it wouldn't get here until early next week (the first of July) if I'm lucky. I'm hopeful I'll be able to get the rest of my pot ghetto in the ground in the next few days. I got 13 in the ground today, and moved one from a large, non-nursery pot to it's place. I'm also hoping I can still move come tomorrow. Rolling on the floor laughing

Here's an example of my big project - the rose off to one side is 'Lady of Shalott' and she's been in the ground for about two weeks now. In the front are 'Julia Child', 'Princess Elise', and 'Winter Sun'.

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Here's a shot that shows you the towers I'm using -

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WitchyWV
Jun 26, 2018 4:35 PM CST
I planted some from ARE last fall. They were big as far as own root roses go. They all did wonderful except for Edith Schurr. I thought she was dead, but she's now surviving after I gave up and ordered another one. It was late September. I don't want to be any later than Sept 1st this year to get everything in the ground. Lady of Shallot, Julia Child, and Abe all did as well or better than the ones I planted in May last year over the winter. ARE plants are older to start with, so It was probably a factor. Austins seem to be super tough in dealing with weather ups and downs, but we do get a lot of rain, which I know a lot of people say they love extra water, so maybe that's a factor also. Both my Love Songs I had to cut to the ground. Not sure if it was the weird winter, or my winter protection. I suspect my protection caused canker, because it happened to a couple that I know are more cold tolerant. It's too wet with warm spells here for me to pile up mulch, so I'm going to leave them alone this go round. I guess being in an in between sort of area, I had to try it, to see if it was the thing for here.
Tuscany, Italy
bart2018
Jun 30, 2018 6:06 AM CST
Here in Tuscany, Italy, we've got a climate like zuzu's-basically, no reliable summer rain at all-just hot, hot, hot scorching sun. To make matters even more extreme, I have no running water out at my land where my rose garden is (about a 20 minute drive from my home), and just can't even get out there on a daily basis, let alone water ! Fall and winter are our rainy seasons,and winter is never very brutal by USA standards, so the ideal time for planting is November/december. I can get away with starting to plant out in the second half of September and October,IF the rain is adequate (and I do like to give the new plants as much time as possible to establish before the mid-spring/ summer heat and drought), and sometimes stretch things out to January and even-one or two plants max-early February, but that is pushing it.

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