Daylilies forum: Mysterious volunteer

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Name: Dave
(Zone 6a)
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BlueRidge
Jun 29, 2018 10:12 AM CST
Hello folks,
I found this daylily growing in my garden this Spring. I found it growing next to a bed of Stella d'Oro's that I have along the sidewalk.
It was nothing that I had planted, so I dug it up and potted it to see what would develop.
We have a lot of daylilies, and I am careful to mark and label each varietal in the yard.
The colors are similar to the wild Tiger lily that grows all over Virginia. The form is a double, so I am somewhat confounded. I know that I didn't plant it, and I have never purchased this varietal.
The scape is approximately 26" tall, and there are 10-14 buds on each scape. I'll uplink a couple of photos, thanks in advance for your assistance!
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Name: James
California (Zone 8b)
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JamesT
Jun 29, 2018 10:36 AM CST
Looks a lot like 'Kwanso', but I'm sure there are other similar daylilies out there.
Daylily (Hemerocallis fulva 'Kwanso')
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jun 29, 2018 12:20 PM CST
It sure is pretty. I've heard Kwanso is a horrifying pernicious weed!
Name: Diana
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 29, 2018 12:40 PM CST
I agree that it looks like Kwanso...
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Name: Dave
(Zone 6a)
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BlueRidge
Jun 29, 2018 7:48 PM CST
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it. If it is Kwanso, and it certainly looks like it, how would it germinate in my bed of other cultivars?
Perhaps a stupid question, but I honestly don't know how it got there.....
Name: Elena
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bxncbx
Jun 29, 2018 7:54 PM CST
My squirrels love to eat daylily seeds. Perhaps one buried a seed for later eating and forgot about it.
Name: Judy
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judydu2
Jun 29, 2018 8:16 PM CST
BlueRidge said:Thanks for the input, I appreciate it. If it is Kwanso, and it certainly looks like it, how would it germinate in my bed of other cultivars?
Perhaps a stupid question, but I honestly don't know how it got there.....


If you've brought any new plants into your garden in the last few years, a small piece of stolon could have hitched a ride without you noticing.


Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jun 29, 2018 8:50 PM CST
BlueRidge said:Thanks for the input, I appreciate it. If it is Kwanso, and it certainly looks like it, how would it germinate in my bed of other cultivars?
Perhaps a stupid question, but I honestly don't know how it got there.....


'Kwanso' can't set seeds and is triploid as far as pollen is concerned, so unlikely to be from seed. Maybe a piece of rhizome as Judy suggested, it does wander.

Name: Dave
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BlueRidge
Jun 30, 2018 5:10 AM CST
sooby said:

'Kwanso' can't set seeds and is triploid as far as pollen is concerned, so unlikely to be from seed. Maybe a piece of rhizome as Judy suggested, it does wander.



This is terrific information, and I appreciate the knowledge shared on the forum. The plant has produced some lovely blooms, really pretty.
If the cultivar cannot set seeds, why would josieskid indicate (in an earlier post on this thread) that it could be considered a pernicious weed?
Name: Sue
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sooby
Jun 30, 2018 5:17 AM CST
BlueRidge said:

If the cultivar cannot set seeds, why would josieskid indicate (in an earlier post on this thread) that it could be considered a pernicious weed?


Perhaps because it spreads far and wide by rhizomes and will take over if you let it? Fans can pop up quite a distance from the original plant, which is a problem if you have less "pushy" cultivars growing near it and want to keep track of who is who. .

Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Jun 30, 2018 6:36 AM CST
I have Kwanso planted in a 'rougher' area of my garden and I enjoy it there. It is quite attractive, and is a vigorous grower for a place with less than ideal soil. It blooms in semi-shade, too. As others have mentioned, it spreads by runners, so is not a good addition to a perennial border or garden area with other plants or shrubs.
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Jul 1, 2018 1:31 AM CST
Kwanso does not make it here in the heat of Central Florida. I had 20+ rhizomes that I planted at the back of my fence and they all died within 3 years, so it is not considered invasive here.

I loved it! It produces beautiful flowers and I never saw rust on the foliage. Unfortunately, they were short-lived in my yard. Sad
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Name: Dave
(Zone 6a)
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BlueRidge
Jul 1, 2018 4:32 AM CST
sooby said:

Perhaps because it spreads far and wide by rhizomes and will take over if you let it? Fans can pop up quite a distance from the original plant, which is a problem if you have less "pushy" cultivars growing near it and want to keep track of who is who. .



Now that makes a lot of sense, many thanks to all the folks that commented on this thread! Thank You!
Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
Jul 3, 2018 7:21 PM CST
I have a pretty big area of Kwanso that I am going to dig up and get rid of. I dug out a good foot and a half of the bed a few years ago and I had to watch for it to keep coming back because any little root that I missed grew. When I dig it up this year (hopefully) I plan to sift the dirt to get as many root pieces out as possible. It's a pretty double...however too invasive.

signet
Jul 5, 2018 6:52 AM CST
I grow all 4 of the so called "ditch lilies " Fulva Europa, Kwansa ( extra petals ....and sort of looks lilke two layers of petals but messy layers) , Kwanza Flore Pleno ( which is what yours looks like to me which has at least 3 layers of petals) and Varigated Kwanza .

All that is necessary is a tiny piece of the rhisome to be present and although it may take a few years ......suddenly a plant pops up and Whoops .....there it is .

I have had a clump of H. Buttercream growing in the same spot for about 3 or 4 years now . Never had anything else there but suddenly, this spring there is a fan and scape of Fulva Europa growing right in the middle of it . Did I plant it there ? Not a chance but there it is nevertheless
Name: Dave
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BlueRidge
Mar 18, 2019 8:26 PM CST
Well, here we are a year later, and I think I know where this Kwanso came from....I was given some iris rhizomes, and planted them in my perennial bed. Lo and behold, this beautiful (unanticipated) daylily emerged. I am very grateful to those that shared their knowledge with me. I have since relocated this plant to an area well suited for it, far away from my perennial bed. Thanks again folks, much appreciated!

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