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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jun 29, 2018 5:03 PM CST

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Brad Jalbert is a Canadian hybridizer whose roses used to be sold by the late lamented Pickering Nursery and have been offered by Palatine in recent years. Most of them are quite exciting. I only have three of them so far.

Lorise Wojciechowski is a beautiful white-blend hybrid tea that's supposed to grow 3-4 feet tall but is easily 6 feet tall in my garden. The blooms are white with a contrasting edge, sometimes cherry-pink and sometimes verging on coral-orange. You can see the differing colors of the edge in these three photos.



Sunset Dreams is a floribunda that's packed with petals. It's in the orange-pink color category, but it's almost closer to an apricot blend, producing blooms that are almost solid apricot, almost solid pink, and combinations of those two colors.



The third Jalbert rose in my garden is Karen Ann, which Beth talked me into buying when I was planning a Palatine order over on the Houzz site. It bloomed last year, but it was stuck under my monster Clematis 'Romantika,' so I wasn't able to take any pictures of it. It produced nice high-centered blooms, so I hope Beth has photos of it.
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porkpal
Jun 29, 2018 5:36 PM CST
Those are new to me. Strikingly different too.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jun 29, 2018 5:49 PM CST

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Yes, they are strikingly different. If @Beth_NorCal, @Nippstress, @CindiKS, and others post photos of their Jalbert roses here, you'll see a very exciting array of bloom colors and shapes.
Name: Beth
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Beth_NorCal
Jun 29, 2018 6:19 PM CST
Hey cool idea Zuzu! I'm at work right now and have to go grocery shopping, so later tonight I'll go thru my pics and post a bunch of them. Ya know... I don't think I have any good photos of KAREN ANN. She's one of the few of his that has been a dud so far. She's still in a pot waiting to get in the ground and is sitting in a somewhat shady spot, so maybe that's why.

Ok.... will get back here in a few hours....
Name: Beth
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Beth_NorCal
Jun 29, 2018 8:33 PM CST
Okey doke... Let's see what I have here.....

Here's ANNIE DAVIDSON. I actually lost her last yr. I'm hoping to replace her if Palatine offers her in the next season.









And ELFI VON DASSANOWSKY





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FOXY LADY - got her last yr and ...... BAM!! What a crazy grower for a first season plant! Grew almost 5ft tall and 3ft wide. Blooms all the time!

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I'll add a few more in a bit....
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jun 29, 2018 8:59 PM CST

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OMG, I want them all!
Name: Beth
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Beth_NorCal
Jun 29, 2018 9:20 PM CST
LORISE is a pretty rose, but she almost always gets thrips. And I think she's a little disease prone, at least for me.



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LORETTA LYNN VAN LEAR has not been a very good one. I got her from Edmunds several yrs ago and she was own root, and a very tiny plant. When she does bloom, she's lovely.





Ok, KAREN ANN gave me one bloom last yr. Nothing decent this yr so far.





Name: Zuzu
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Jun 29, 2018 9:42 PM CST

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I hope my Karen Ann survived the smothering by Romantika. I haven't seen it bloom this year.

I think Foxy Lady is my favorite. I really love orange roses.
Name: Beth
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Beth_NorCal
Jun 29, 2018 9:46 PM CST
I've had PAULA SMART for quite a few yrs. She's still in a big pot, and she does really well every yr. Good repeat and pretty blooms that are, I guess, considered "mini"... but last yr at the end of the season she popped out some big HT-sized blooms. So I assume she likes the cooler weather better...



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SUNSET DREAMS is one I got last yr, and it only bloomed one time last yr. But this yr it's been blooming a lot! Still in a pot too!



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And... my favorite... OUR ANNIVERSARY... Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous especially in the early blooms with that violet "underglow" as I call it. It's a short bush, like 2ft x 2ft or a little more. Blooms a lot. Gotta have it!

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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jun 29, 2018 9:49 PM CST
Wow, Beth! Those are some gorgeous roses.
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Name: Zuzu
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Jun 29, 2018 10:03 PM CST

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Beth, thanks for posting these fabulous photos. I think they're sure to sell some people on Jalbert's roses.

Paula Smart is intriguing. Too bad it's a mini. They get lost in my garden.

The colors of Our Anniversary are just extraordinary. I love that combination. Mirandy occasionally has that red/violet combination. It's not a Jalbert rose, but I'll include a photo of it here just to show that combo.



@MargieNY has Our Anniversary. Join the thread, Margie.
Name: Beth
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Beth_NorCal
Jun 29, 2018 10:05 PM CST
Thanks Porkpal. He does know how to create some real beauties. I tried to order his EMMA HAFTL from Palatine last yr, but they had crop failure on that one. Hopefully they'll have some available for the coming season.
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Beth_NorCal
Jun 29, 2018 10:12 PM CST
Zuzu PAULA SMART doesn't actually grow like a mini anyway. She's like about 2½ft tall and 2ft wide. And the blooms most of the time are about 2½" or more. She's a pretty good rose. And seems to like being in a pot. I just looked up my records and I got her in 2011. She's been in that pot for 7yrs!
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jun 29, 2018 11:42 PM CST

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What impresses me is the wide variety of colors and forms with each rose! Some are hard to believe that they are the same plant.
Love the scalloped petals on FOXY LADY and the sunset colors and fullness of SUNSET DREAMS.
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Name: Zuzu
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Jul 1, 2018 1:13 PM CST

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Paula Smart does sound like a good choice, and you're right, Beth: It's hard to lose a plant in a pot. Big Grin
Name: Carol
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Canadian_Rose
Aug 31, 2018 12:26 PM CST
It's hard to find information about Jalbert roses! I'm glad I found this. Hurray!

Does anyone have any pictures/information about Emma Haftl...especially about amount of blooms and fragrance?

Are there any other Jalbert roses that fit the bill?
Thanks!
Carol
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hampartsum
Aug 31, 2018 2:14 PM CST
Carol :This link has a few pics.:
http://www.helpmefind.com/gard...
Name: Carol
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Aug 31, 2018 4:18 PM CST
Thanks! Yeah, I've seen that. Smiling
Would like a bit more info though.
Thank You!
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Name: Margie
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Aug 31, 2018 5:15 PM CST
Our Anniversary
http://www.selectroses.ca/nami...


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Emma Haftl
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nippstress
Aug 31, 2018 5:53 PM CST
Sorry to be late getting to this thread - I had to find time when I had a moment to look through roses and pictures. I agree that Foxy Lady is terrific and I am intrigued with her color combinations. She can take on a distinctly russet cast for me in cool weather, and she survived a winter or two here. She succumbed to fertilizer burn this year but I'll definitely be replacing her. My Our Anniversary never looked as great as Beth's but I quite liked it. Mine faded a bit after a few winters but it deserves a better spot too. Elfi von Dassanowski is fine but it fades a lot and isn't as intriguing as some of these other roses for me. Same goes for Lorise Wocj so far.
I absolutely love Sunset Dreams too - it's one of those "wow" roses that catches my eye - intriguing mix of saturated apricot and gold colors and long-lasting many petalled flowers. Honestly - what's not to love in this photo? It makes me smile. I label my photos with "nice" or "v gd" if they are striking to me, and every one of Sunset Dreams has this mark in my records.


I like the pictures above of Loretta Lynn Van Lear and Paula Smart, but they weren't remotely hardy for me in zone 5, a surprise for a Jalbert rose. It doesn't sound like LLVL is too great of a loss, and Paula Smart isn't as unusual as some of the other Jalbert roses. Southern Peach is another one that hasn't a prayer for me in zone 5 (gee, think the name might have suggested that?). I haven't had good survival from Annie Davidson or Marylou Whitney, but I'm liable to try them again in a more protected spot.

Ones that haven't been pictured yet include:
Lorise (without the last name...) - a surprisingly hardy but small one-caned wonder that can put out some lovely high centered and nicely contrasted blooms


Bon Appetit - I put this one in last year and it has had some real zingers of bright blooms this year, obviously surviving the winter. I like the vivid colors, and like others have said Jalbert has a wide variety of colors in his roses. This one is almost blindingly bright like Vavoom with better winter hardiness though the photo below from last year is more apricot than it would be in the yard this year.


Midnight Mystique - I tried that one this year from Palatine and the blooms are nice though not quite as purple as I'd hoped. Still, it seems to be a nicely frequent bloomer for a first year rose. My pictures of this one are on another flash drive so I can't show them at the moment. Diane Loomer is another real winner for me this year with bright gold blooms with peachy-pink highlights, sort of like Candice. Again, photos are on another drive but I really like this one.

Shiloh Hill Rose has survived several winters and it has a nice high contrast reverse. Not as striking as some of the others, but it survives our winters and that's something already to appreciate.


Since the photos all look like names here on this post I won't dig out my other drive but see how this posts as well. Suffice to say that Jalbert is a rare kind of breeder that has roses well suited for both very hot and cold regions.
Cynthia


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