Daylilies forum: old fashion daylily double

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tomglod
Jul 13, 2018 11:20 AM CST
we tag all our double day lilies last year. we dug them divide them and made a new area a 35 foot row plus another bed of them. when they flowed they came back singles. why did this happen. will they ever come back as double. the lily we did not move also came back as singles thank you tom
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sooby
Jul 13, 2018 11:37 AM CST
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Can you post a picture of one or two of the flowers Tom? I'm just wondering if they are completely single or still have some segments showing that would suggest they'll flower more fully when they've established.
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Calif_Sue
Jul 13, 2018 1:01 PM CST

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I get single and double blooms on the same plant a lot, I think it's a combo of weather and culture related. Some hybridizers even give a percentage of doubling meaning it isn't always consistent.
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Seedfork
Jul 13, 2018 1:05 PM CST
Can you also let us know how many different cultivars there were, was it just a few with many clumps of the same type, or were there many different cultivars. I find it strange that none of them would produce double blooms, even with first blooms. I assume you have had these plants already for a few years and that is it very unusual for them not to produce double blooms. I know I have a few plants that often produce single blooms in the early part of the season then kick in with the doubles later, maybe with the stress of moving it has just caused them to be later in blooming doubles.
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sooby
Jul 13, 2018 1:15 PM CST
Larry and Sue, the title is old fashioned daylily double. I could well be wrong but I was assuming 'Kwanso' or 'Flore Pleno'. I've occasionally seen an almost single flower on 'Kwanso' but it does seem strange that all would be single after being moved. Maybe you're right that they're more modern cultivars instead.

I wonder if some 'Europa' was mixed in, hence the need to tag the double ones...
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Seedfork
Jul 13, 2018 1:19 PM CST
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I did see the title of the post and that made me think the same thing. But then also the part about tagging made me wonder just how many different daylilies there were, and if by old daylily doubles it just meant not the latest and greatest, but just good old reliable "garden type doubles".
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Calif_Sue
Jul 13, 2018 2:42 PM CST

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That's what I thought too Larry.
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sooby
Jul 13, 2018 3:13 PM CST
I'm also not sure I understand how all the doubles were tagged and moved, yet the daylilies that were not moved also came back as singles, implying they weren't singles to start with. Hopefully Tom will be back to clarify.
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Gleni
Jul 14, 2018 3:18 AM CST
Welcome Tomglod . Welcome! Welcome!
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ShakespearesGarden
Jul 15, 2018 8:39 AM CST
Welcome! Tom!
I have one double that started blooming as a single and then had both double and single blooms at the same time. As Sooby and Calif_Sue mentioned some plants need more time and some don't always double.

And if you're growing Kwanso/Europa only, boy do we have some temptations for you! Big Grin
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troublesmom46
Jul 15, 2018 12:48 PM CST
Welcome Tomglod! Welcome!

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