Hostas forum: Seedlings I'm keeping or watching

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:05 AM CST
I have quite a number of Open-Pollinated (OP) seedlings that I'm quite happy with. Some I've already given a name. Others I'm watching and may keep. I will post them in small batches and I invite discussion and or suggestions on whether I should name them, name suggestions, and even if you really seriously think any are worth registering.

Finally, I often name after my grandkids to are Amy, Nolan, Leila and Heidi. My husband has made ice research his life work and I'm a musician. All of those could give naming ideas.

Here are the pictures. The five in this post already have names.

1. 'Amy's Choice'. A 2007 seedling from 'Korean Snow'. When it was named, it had a hint of mistiness in the leaves, but that's long gone.
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2. 'Dancing With Leila', a 2008 seedling from 'Last Dance'. This one beat the odds and is a reverse colour from its variegated pod parent. It looks a great deal like the commercially available 'Dance With Me', hence its name after my second granddaughter.
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3. 'Golden Nolan' a 2006 seedling from 'September Sun' This one was almost neon yellow earlier in the spring and really stood out in the garden. Named after my grandson.
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4. 'Heidi Ho', a 2012 seedling from 'Spilt Milk. Named after my third granddaughter. It's going to be a large plant. Took half of it to Vancouver in late June and have a small eye I'm nurturing for Heidi's other grandparents.
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5. 'Lovely Leila, is named after the second granddaughter. This is a 2006 seedling, parentage unknown as squirrels moved around my markers during its first winter. It emerges with almost white leaf centres which go misty and/or darken up. How much they darken depends on the year.
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Ann

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:09 AM CST
6. 2009 seedling from 'Touch of Class'. This is a small plant which is quite bright yellow in early spring and tones down. Has slightly red petioles.
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7. 2010 seedling from 'Deja Blu'. I like this blue seedling a lot, but have not yet divided it. Will do that soon and might give it a name. Any suggestions related to Amy, Nolan or Heidi?
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8. '2012 seedling from 'Christmas Pageant'. Watching this one this year because it's a shadow of what it was last year. I had several large hostas that suffered this past winter and this is one. It WAS much taller and I'm hoping for the best for next year. Will post last year's picture for comparison.
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The same seedling last year.
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Ann

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:10 AM CST
9. 2012 seedling from 'Korean Snow'. This is a fast-growing seedling from KS. But I'm not quite sure it warrants keeping long term or giving a name. Suggestions welcome though.
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10. 2012 seedling from 'Lemon Frost'. A very tiny (the size of my hand) hosta. Moved it this year to a spot where it can be seen and will watch it.
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11. 2012 seedling from 'Salute'. Love this one. Nicely shaped, glossy leaves. I think this one deserves a name.
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12. 2013 seedling from 'Fire Island'. Still watching this one to see if it forms a nice mound eventually. The petioles are slightly red and the entire plant is an unusual colour of green.
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Ann

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:15 AM CST
13. 2013 seedling from 'Neat Splash'. I was given seeds from NS and these all came from one plant that resulted from those seeds. I divided the plant a couple of years ago because it had so many things going on with it - really unstable. While all of this originated as one plant, the eyes vary widely as to streakiness and margination. Still watching to see if this settles into anything worth keeping.
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14. 2013 seedling from 'Touch of Class'. This one has red petioles and the leaves are not overly large as you can see in the next picture. Amy (granddaughter #1) liked it last year' so I may be looking for a name related to her name. Suggestions welcome.
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15. 2014 seedling from 'Emerald Ruff Cut'. Love the ruffled leaves on this one and thinking it might be worthy of a name. Suggestions welcome.
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16. 2016 seedling from 'Emerald Ruff Cut'. Another one with ruffled leaves, but this one is green.
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Ann

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:17 AM CST
17. 2016 seedling from 'Curly Fries'. I like this one which may end up looking a lot like mama.
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18. 2016 seedling from 'Curly Fries'. Amazing how different this one is from the previous picture. I think next year will decide whether I keep it or not.
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19. 2016 seedling from 'Dorset Clown'. Watching this one but thinking it may not grow well enough to keep.
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20. 2016 seedling from 'Purple Heart'. I think this one may be a winner with the wide, red, petioles and shiny green leaves.
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Ann

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Name: Rose
Oquawka, IL (Zone 5a)
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Rose1656
Jul 14, 2018 8:18 AM CST
#15 in the last group is a nice one!
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:22 AM CST
Please hold off on the comments for a few moments as I'm renumbering some of them, but thanks.
Ann

Pictures of all my hostas, updated annually and tracked since 2008 begin at: https://violaann.smugmug.com/G...
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
Canning and food preservation Container Gardener Annuals Herbs Seed Starter Vegetable Grower
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:24 AM CST
21. 2016 seedling from 'Salute'. This one also shows a bit of red in the petioles. I'll try to get another picture w/o shadows.
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22. 2016 seedling from 'Spilt MIlk' has been consistently misty and I think it will be a keeper.
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23. 2016 seedling from 'Tickle Me Pink'. Amazing how different these three seedlings are, but I'm still watching all of them.
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24. 2016 seedling from 'Tickle Me Pink'. This one has leaves like leather and some of them have little sawtooth edges.
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25. 2016 seedling from 'Tickle Me Pink'. A nice yellow.
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Ann

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:26 AM CST
26. 2018 seedling from 'Deja Blu'. Given the nice seedling I have from 2010 from DB, I'm watching this one.
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27. 2018 seedling from 'Ice Age Trail'. Watching this one for sure. It's got tough leaves and enough green that it should grow well.
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28. 2018 seedling from 'Pixie Vamp'. PV is a mini; so this one may not be very large. I like the hint of ruffles on the leaves.
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29. 2018 seedling from 'Spilt Milk'. Watching this one because a few leaves are showing a hint of a margin. It's possible it might end up looking like 'Heidi Ho' (#4 above).
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Ann

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
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ViolaAnn
Jul 14, 2018 8:30 AM CST
30. 2018 seedling #1 from 'Purple Heart'. Watching these three because I like the 2016 seedling so much.
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31. 2018 seedling #2 from 'Purple Heart'. Watching these three because I like the 2016 seedling so much.
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32. 2018 seedling #3 from 'Purple Heart'. Watching these three because I like the 2016 seedling so much.
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33. 2012 Weedling. Found this one almost under my 'Lakeside Zinger' and would be willing to bet that's the parent. The leaves are small - that's 'Grand Prize' to the right - and they are tough as nails. Rather like this little one.
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Finally, my little seedling bed where many of these reside until I decide what to do with them.
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DONE! Your turn now.


Ann

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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jul 15, 2018 9:02 AM CST
Ann, that's a bunch of lovelies seedlings! I can't say I've ever seen a seedling of any of my hostas, and I've never tried collecting the seeds pods. Since you seems to be the resident expert, are self pollinated hostas worth growing out? I think all of the seed pods currently set are selfed as there really wasn't anything else blooming at the time.

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
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ViolaAnn
Jul 15, 2018 12:03 PM CST
Diana - the only way to find out is to try them. The vast majority of seedlings from non-streaked parents will be solid green, yellow or blue. The vast majority of them will not be worth keeping; so you need to learn to cull or give them away. Experience will tell you whether the seedlings from a particular plant are worth growing and I don't collect the seeds from those whose seedlings I haven't liked in the past or that didn't grow well. 'Cherry Berry', for instance will produce far in excess of 90% totally white seedlings that won't grow because they have no chlorophyll. A lot depends on whether you have space to grow a few seedlings for several years. I generally take a bunch of seedlings to my hort. society sale where they go really cheap because they aren't a named variety.

I collect seeds from plants I'm interested. They are generally ripe about 6 weeks after blooming. I store them in labelled paper envelopes, that I fold out of advertising flyers, until they are thoroughly dry. Then I remove the seeds from the pods and I like to work off the black, papery wings on the seeds in a fine sieve. That gives me a change to check out whether a good seed has formed. Then I generally put them back in the paper envelopes or in little ziplok bags ($ store) and label them. You can grow them at this stage, but I generally make it a January or February project.

I like to start them in a folded paper coffee filter which is quite moist. I seal them in a labelled sandwich bag on top of my fridge for a couple of weeks. After that, I open them and carefully transfer those that have germinated to damp soil with tweezers. I use little plastic yogurt tubs with holes in the bottom of them. And LABEL as to pod parent. Maybe 4-5 germinated seedlings in each tub. Later in the season, I pot them up into their own tub and do the first cull. They stay in pots for the entire first season and I generally put them pot and all into my veggie garden for the winter.

I encourage you to give it a try. #2 above was a total surprise. #4 and #22 and maybe #29 were not as 'Spilt Milk' is considered streaky and produces a higher number of interesting seedlings, But I have other seedlings from it which are just large yellow plants and not particularly interesting. Be prepared for them to change dramatically from year to year for the first 5 or 6 years. At times it's taken that long for me to make a decision on whether I wanted to keep a plant or not. But if you do find an interesting seedling it's all yours to name however you want.

Whether you decide a seedling is good enough to register or not is another issue and I'd love to hear your thoughts about some of mine.
Ann

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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jul 15, 2018 6:30 PM CST
Ann, I am currently breeding daylilies and we have the space for trying to breed hostas as our entire front yard is shaded by four huge pin oaks (I'll try to upload a decent landscape photo). I have a fairly generic green hosta that I have seed pods on- might be fun to see what they do.

I see by your zone that we share winter temps- so knowing that I could leave the hostas in pots helps!

I really like Golden Nolan- that yellow stands out! And I like Heidi Ho too, with her big leaves and pretty colors. The shape of the leaves on the Korean Snow seedlings is interesting as well. I don't have any shaped like that and as they look smaller than many of mine I could imagine a place for them in my beds.

More later- dinner is about to come off the stove!

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