Roses forum: Leonardo Da Vinci

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Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Jul 17, 2018 1:48 AM CST
I picked up a LDV today after researching the ultimate height and width it will reach. When I got home I looked it up on the database and it says, "with thorns/spines/prickles/teeth". Is it among the worst for thorns or is it not really so bad? What are the worst roses for thorns that you would never plant? I keep a list of roses that I would love to find one day but I need to keep a list of ones to keep away from. I get sucked in by the beautiful labels with scant information, and don't want to buy a pot of misery. Lola.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 17, 2018 2:21 AM CST

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Don't worry about the wording of that data checkbox. It used to say simply "thorned," but the cactus fans objected, saying that cacti actually have spines, and some other plants have teeth rather than thorns, and even thorns are called prickles in other countries, so the "thorned" notation was changed to "with thorns/spines/prickles/teeth." It sounds alarming, I know, but it doesn't mean that the rose has all four. Almost every rose in the database has thorns and Leonardo da Vinci is actually almost thornless according to some sources.

As for thorny monsters, I have three in my garden that I prefer to keep at a distance: New Dawn, Snowfire, and George Burns. I did almost bleed to death when I ran into a Jubilee Celebration thorn, but that was less the fault of the rose than of the spot where the thorn got me -- right in an artery.
Name: Lola
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LolaTasmania
Jul 17, 2018 2:50 AM CST
Thanks zuzu. I was quite alarmed by the thought of all four types of danger trying to get me. I have a Comtes de Champagne that has two very scary canes but the rest of it looks fairly benign. I hope the new growth is less spikey because I love this rose.
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Mustbnuts
Jul 17, 2018 8:20 AM CST
[As for thorny monsters, I have three in my garden that I prefer to keep at a distance: New Dawn, Snowfire, and George Burns. I did almost bleed to death when I ran into a Jubilee Celebration thorn, but that was less the fault of the rose than of the spot where the thorn got me -- right in an artery.[/quote]

Yikes!
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jul 17, 2018 8:39 AM CST
Robusta has all 3: thorns, prickles and teeth, Mermaid is quite ferocious and HUGE (I find her perfect), 4th of July is thornier than average, Snow Fire was also a threat but I have out lived her.
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Mustbnuts
Jul 17, 2018 12:19 PM CST
I find that a lot of the older David Austin roses have thorns on their thorns! While not an older DA rose, Munstead Wood is pretty much covered with them.

The one plant I have that has vicious "got ya" thorns on it (even though my roses more armed with thorns that this plant) is my Australian Finger Lime. It jumps out to snag me every time I walk past it. I could also make darning needles out of my Yuzu tree's thorns. They are nasty!

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