Perennials forum: Lonicera sempervirens 'Major Wheeler'

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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Mar 19, 2012 10:10 PM CST
I've been wanting to get Lonicera sempervirens 'Major Wheeler' for years. http://www.highcountrygardens.com/index/page/product/product...

I don't have a trellis, so can y'all tell me what you're using for the (non invasive) Honeysuckle, so I can get ideas for my yard?

What about an Obelisk, a Pyramid Trellis or anything that works great?

What about those fan trellis compared to a trellis that has 'two spikes' to stick into the ground?

How tall should the trellis be and how wide?

Pretty sure I read that the honeysuckle should have strong support.

Thanks for all your help!

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SongofJoy
Mar 20, 2012 8:09 AM CST
I love 'Major Wheeler'. Such a beautiful honeysuckle. I think you could use any of those things. A fan trellis would work if it's very sturdy and well secured. Any honeysuckle would tend to make the upper part of a fan trellis top-heavy, IMHO. You can do a lot of pruning but that sort of defeats the purpose for me.

Yes, definitely a strong support is needed. I think the trellis could be as tall and as wide as you want it, but you should be able to reach the top fairly easily some way in order to cut it when the time comes. That honeysuckle should fill it just fine.

Other ideas welcome. Green Grin!
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Mar 20, 2012 10:56 AM CST
Thanks Tee for your input! I tip my hat to you.

An Obelisk, a Pyramid Trellis, since they have 4 legs to stick into the ground would be great and hopefully strong and sturdy.

I always wondered if the fan trellis would be sturdy enough. Doesn't seem like it would since they're made the way they are at the bottom of it.

Think I'll go and check Lowe's today and see what they have. As soon as I find one, I'm going to order MW from HCG! Hurray!

I was just checking the Hummingbird migration map website http://www.hummingbirds.net/map.html and I'd better get crackin! Gotta get those Hummingbird feeders out today and get my trellis and MW! Hurray! Thumbs up Hummers are movin up fast! Hurray! Lovey dubby Thumbs up

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SongofJoy
Mar 20, 2012 11:03 AM CST
You're welcome, Marilyn. I am not a huge fan of fan trellises (no pun intended). They are pretty but tend to topple over or lean unless they are very well anchored. Obelisks are one of my favorites. Thumbs up .

Hummers should be here soon. Hurray! Hurray!
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Marilyn
Mar 20, 2012 9:11 PM CST
Tee,

Do you have any photos of your trellis with MW on it? What size is your trellis (height and width)? Does the trellis stay straight?

I found a trellis locally at a local garden center today. It's 88" tall (I think that's including the approx. 12" stakes/spikes) and 24" width. It's metal and it looks to be a criss-cross (sp?) design. I hope it's a good one.

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SongofJoy
Mar 21, 2012 2:57 AM CST
Sorry for the confusion. My MW is on a sturdy chainlink fence.

Where will you put your trellis?
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virginiarose
Mar 21, 2012 3:16 AM CST
I had picked out the same vine last year but never bought it. I purchased a piece of lattis and connected it to the side of breeze way. Hopefully this year I will get something going as far as vines go.

Marylin, did you want a free standing trellis?

I ordered a crossvine from mamajacks and I had a rather unique idea for a big blank wall behind garage.
Thumb of 2012-03-21/virginiarose/64c9fa--This is it in the background. Green Grin!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Green-Garden-Wedding-Arbor-Arch-96-i... about buying this, good price huh?
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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Mar 21, 2012 4:06 AM CST
It sounds like she's already purchased a trellis. Green Grin!
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virginiarose
Mar 21, 2012 4:16 AM CST
So she got the one from the garden center, I know she said she found one.

What did you think of my idea for the trellis/arbor. I really didn't want to screw anything in. But I am pretty sure I could anchor it to the ground instead. It will be exposed to the north winds.

How long would it take a Major Wheeler' to cover this, should I buy one plant for each side. I have something else in mind for the lattis.
Susan

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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Mar 21, 2012 5:36 AM CST
I think she bought it. Maybe not though. Confused

I think you're area looks great. I'm sure it would work if you can secure it well enough. It's hard for me to tell about how heavy or solid it is so how well it would stay put.. If you get a lot of wind, I don't know. But if you think you can secure it well enough against the wind, try it. I guess that's the only way to know for sure.

MW grows quickly. It also likes some shade.
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Mar 21, 2012 9:25 AM CST
Yes, I bought a free standing trellis.

Susan,

Your garden looks great! You should only need one HCG says it's vigorous.

http://www.highcountrygardens.com/index/page/product/product...

I'm still deciding where to put the trellis.
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SongofJoy
Mar 21, 2012 10:31 AM CST
Make sure it gets some shade. MW likes partial shade. Thumbs up

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virginiarose
Mar 21, 2012 4:47 PM CST
OH shucks, there is no shade at all back there, it is going to be the hot bed, I'm putting in lots of Coneflowers and drought resistant plants for butterflies. I have a fence at the side I could let it run up on. Thumbs up
Susan

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Marilyn
Mar 21, 2012 8:53 PM CST
Tee,

How much shade during the day are you talking about?

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SongofJoy
Mar 22, 2012 4:26 AM CST
It likes protection from hot afternoon sun. In my zone, I plant it on the east side. You are a bit further north of me so it will probably take more sun there. Be careful about putting it next to the south or west side of a brick or stone house that can really heat up and radiate that heat back for a long time. MW is pretty hardy but does better with just a little shade.
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Name: virginiarose
Virginia
Money talks but Chocolate Sings!
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
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virginiarose
Mar 22, 2012 4:48 AM CST
Thumbs up
Susan

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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Mar 22, 2012 6:05 AM CST

Where I'm going to put it gets lots of afternoon sun. I decided late yesterday evening where I was going to plant it and I've got to get tons of weeds out of the spot.

Hope it will do ok with the amount of sun it gets.

Welcome to the Agastache and Salvias Forum!

Hummingbirds are beautiful flying jewels in the garden!


Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Mar 22, 2012 7:59 AM CST
Me too. Thumbs up
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