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Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
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AquaEyes
Jul 25, 2018 5:37 PM CST
I think this may be Hosta sieboldii rather than H. sieboldiana. I know, it's confusing when two species in the same genus were named for the same person, but H. sieboldiana has large, heart-shaped leaves, while those of H. sieboldii are smaller and lanceolate.

:-)

~Christopher
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 28, 2018 9:21 PM CST

Plants Admin

I responded to one post questioning the identity of three photos in this entry, and I now realize I should repeat my response in the two remaining posts so that it does not look as though the question has been ignored.

This is a photo of Hosta kikutii var. yakusimensis, which is now a synonym for Hosta sieboldiana var. sieboldiana, so it is in the right place.
Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
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AquaEyes
Aug 17, 2018 1:37 PM CST
I disagree. While this isn't my original thought -- H. sieboldii -- it's also not what is considered H. sieboldiana. Once, back when the species pictured was previously described, it was called H. sieboldiana var. yakusimensis, but it has since been given its own species name. These pictures should, therefore, be sent to a file for the current name -- H. kikutii var. yakusimensis -- and its previous synonym of H. sieboldiana var. yakusimensis can be referenced there. They don't belong in a file for H. sieboldiana.

Note the dates when it was included within H. sieboldiana.
http://www.hostalibrary.org/sp...

More recent references to this species no longer lump it with H. sieboldiana.
http://www.hostalibrary.org/sp...

I actually hadn't heard of this species before -- instead, I was looking up H. sieboldiana 'Elegans' for my cemetery project. While searching around, I stumbled upon this trio of pics which seemed out of place. In the process, I learned about a new (to me) plant.

:-)

~Christopher
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Aug 17, 2018 2:57 PM CST

Plants Admin

As I already said, Hosta kikutii var. yakusimensis is a synonym. We do not have separate entries for synonyms because they are obsolete names.

http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

Your links are dated 2008 and 2010. Mine is dated 2018 and shows that the latest taxonomic scrutiny was performed in August 2017.
Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
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AquaEyes
Aug 21, 2018 8:45 AM CST
I find it interesting that your link does have an entry for Hosta kikutii, but did not move one of its accepted variants over into that species, leaving it back with H. sieboldiana, where it was last referenced as such (according to the website's own references) in 1932.

http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

Then there's a 1940 reference listing it with H. kikutii.

http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

And it's odd that all the other variants of H. kikutii -- which were all once lumped with H. sieboldiana -- made their way to a new file, but this one variant -- which is still clustered with the other H. kikutii variants in my much more recent references -- was left behind.

No disrespect meant, but when a more recent link (2018) is supported by a much older reference (1930s) than 2008 and 2010 references, methinks the 2018 link simply hasn't been updated.

http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

Besides, simply look at the photos and compare them to all the others in the file -- they're not the same.

:-)

~Christopher
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