Roses forum: August 2018 -- Photos and Chat

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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
Aug 31, 2018 10:54 PM CST
I still don't have many roses in bloom. I dead headed the crisped blooms today ... Smiling I am hoping for another flush.

Pinstripe




Something for Judy





Tiffany



I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Sep 1, 2018 12:27 AM CST
Mike - oh! That's Gertrude Jekyll...it's quite large, isn't it!!

Zuzu - yes, I want Augusta Louise too!! Hopefully Palantine will have enough. Blinking

Sue - I love your Caramella rose!! Thanks for showing all of those beautiful pictures!! Thank You!

RoseBlush - Love your PinStripe!!! Lovely!! I have Tiffany, and I find that it doesn't bloom very much...what do you think of yours?

Carol
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
Sep 1, 2018 1:01 AM CST
Carol .. Thanks for the complement about 'Pinstripe'. My camera doesn't have the automatic focus feature, so that's part of my learning curve. 'Pinstripe' is a solid rose in my garden.

I can't compare the performance my 'Tiffany' to yours because you are growing your roses in containers and mine are in the ground.

No matter what you do, if you are trying to grow a rose that wants to be big in a container, you will, by default, be restricting the plants natural root growth. It can't be helped. That means you will never get the full potential of the rose, so it makes sense that you would have fewer blooms than I do on my plants.

From your photos, I can see that you do an excellent job of growing the roses and since I have fought glacier slurry / till myself, I can understand why you have to grow your roses in containers.

Container gardening in my high summer temps is a nightmare for me, but I still had to start all of my roses in containers to grow up a solid root mass before I put them into the ground to give them a better start in my lousy soil.

Now, that I am beginning to understand my camera, I'll try and take a photo of both of my roses. In a few weeks, the light will be better for photos. Right now, it's too intense ... even in the morning and evening hours. I am trying to find a way to compensate for that ... Sticking tongue out
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Sep 2, 2018 1:58 AM CST
RoseBlush - you have some good points about roses in containers. Yet there are some that just laugh and say Whistling
"Nothing's going to slow me down!" Whistling Right now my Memorial Day is a beacon of pink Lovey dubby ...there are at least 30 big huge blooms on it!!! And it's been in the same pot for about 6 years. I have quite a few like that...so I'm not too worried. Smiling I'll just take it one year at a time.

Good luck with your camera...I would shudder to think how I would do with a camera that doesn't do it all for me. LOL

Carol
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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
Sep 2, 2018 2:26 AM CST
Carol ... every rose is different. Some can adapt better than others.

I love the photos of your roses and am so glad you have found some that don't mind being grown in containers.

Up here, with my high summer temps, I don't think I could possibly do as well as you have done ... Smiling
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Sep 3, 2018 12:42 AM CST
RoseBlush - so true!! I agree Here, we don't get the heat and we don't have the long growing seasons. Makes it a lot easier. I'm a bit concerned how my potted roses in pots with the holes up the sides of the pots will do overwinter in the garage. I'm thinking of wrapping each pot with pink insulation or something like that. Then overtop blankets like normal.

What are you thoughts on this?
Carol
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis Irises
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zuzu
Sep 3, 2018 12:56 AM CST

Moderator

Carol, here's an article that was written for our site by a member in Calgary in zone 3. It might be helpful to you.

https://garden.org/ideas/view/...

She also wrote this one, which doesn't say much about winterizing, but it does include lots of lovely photos of her container roses.

https://garden.org/ideas/view/...
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
Sep 3, 2018 8:02 AM CST
Zuzu, those are great articles.

I do want to add my usual caveat that "there are a lot of right ways to grow roses". Carol has successfully overwintered her container roses in containers.

She may also have different care practices.

@Canadian_Rose / Carol ... I think it is wise that you are thinking about how drilling holes in the sides of your containers will require a change in how you overwinter your roses. Change breeds change ... Hilarious!

I don't know how many roses you are overwintering and how much space you have available.

I am the wrong person to ask about overwintering roses in that I do not need to do winter protection in my garden. Of course, I didn't know that when I first moved up here from San Diego. I probably did a lot of over-thinking ... Whistling

I was gifted with a lot of roses as a housewarming gift and only got a small percentage of the roses planted each year. I had to overwinter the roses outside in the containers they were growing in at the time.

I dithered about that for a long time until I decided that it was harder for a large mass to freeze than a smaller mass. I ended up clustering all of the pots with bags of leaves between the containers and bags of leaves tied around the clusters of pots for insulation. I didn't cover them because I was counting on the rain to water them. We get a lot of rain and some snow during the winter months.

It took me six years to plant all of the roses in those pots and the clustering method worked in this climate and none of the roses died.

Now, to your specific situation with holes drilled in the sides of the pots:

I am glad you are not thinking about using any plastic material for your insulation. The containers have to breathe or the soil would go sour.

I am not certain you need to cover the roses, but you have more experience there. Roses can die back to the bud union or to the roots and still come back when conditions are better.

Jack Harkness wrote that roses in nature are pruned by fire, frost and the teeth of animals. In other words, cold hardy roses are genetically programmed to come back from hard or lousy pruning.

I had experience last winter with my roses being pruned by wood rats. They took off every shoot and there was more cane damage on the main canes they left alone. So, I have concluded that the twiggy growth is a natural insulator.

I think you would get better information from others who grow roses in colder zones than mine, so I am going to tag a couple of other NGA members and see if they can contribute more information ... Cynthia / @Nipptress, Mike / @Mike, Margie / @MargieNY, @RpR

I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Sep 4, 2018 11:53 PM CST
Zuzu - yes, Joanne was in the Calgary Rose Society before I joined. I'm not active there anymore either. Thanks for the info. Smiling

RoseBlush - thanks for tagging other members...I didn't realize that was possible! I overwinter about 55 roses (fluctuates as I get new ones and give away ones I don't like). The only time (over 8 years) that I lost a few (3) was last winter, because I decided I would try not covering them with blankets. You would think that a reasonable person would experiment on one or two roses....not ALL of them!! What a nincompoop!! Rolling on the floor laughing Or maybe I was too lazy to cover them....nah...couldn't be that. nodding Your clustering method Group hug was a good idea! Wood rats!!! Oh the horrors!! Alberta doesn't have rats...we've made it our mandate to exterminate them here.

Actually, I think I know what to do...my regular methods plus adding insulation around the pots as there's holes that weren't there before. I'll work it out. Smiling
Carol

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