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Name: Steve Todd
Illinois (Zone 5b)
Region: Illinois Plant and/or Seed Trader Daylilies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Ahead
Sep 10, 2019 6:50 AM CST
Karen,

Your playing looks pretty spectacular to me!, Congrats on seeing something in a cross and bringing it to it's amazing bloom!
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 10, 2019 7:59 AM CST
Steve, you make such a great case for selling seeds. Would you mind expounding a bit? I keep wondering how it would work for me, since I'm not that young or strong anymore. I know how exciting it is to get that box in the mail with that exquisite plant in it. I'd like that exquisite plant to be my creation. But with just a few seeds in a tiny package - that can be nirvana as well!

So, you still need a certain amount of room. You need parent plants, yours and other hybridizers' to bring in new blood, and then all the offspring, to look for something different. Blinking Blinking Blinking

Sounds like it's right up my alley!
I are sooooo smart!
Name: Steve Todd
Illinois (Zone 5b)
Region: Illinois Plant and/or Seed Trader Daylilies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Sep 10, 2019 8:42 AM CST
Mary,

It's whatever you want it to be. At one time, I wanted to get to the point where I was almost exclusively using my own plants in selling seeds. Financially, it makes the most sense. But I came to realize that there were some problems with that kind of thinking.

Firstly, that would mean that I would have to be creating worthy seedlings every year. That is a pressure that major hybridizes are under, and I don't want that pressure. I only keep about 400 seeds per year, and to expect exceptional seedlings from each batch is unrealistic.

Secondly, one of the reasons I get certain outside plants is to be able to offer something new and exciting, which is certainly part of the seed selling game. The newest offerings sell better with seeds....just the way it is.

Thirdly, in using only my own creations, I found it harder and harder to let go of the seeds...lol. I had more attachment to them. Getting something out of my wheelhouse is easier to sell. I remember when BASS GIBSON came out, as outstanding a cultivar as it is, I had no interest in teeth, so selling those made perfect sense. Also, I have found that I get bored easily, and then to overdue things I like (talk to wife...lol). Adding a few from other hybridizes allows me to change things up and keep it fresh. Seeing a hundred green dip seedlings bloom in my yard makes me go green blind. I need things to keep changing.

I have found that the more I know the less I truly know, so I don't always trust my own instincts, meaning that take a risk sometimes, you can be surprised by the most unlikely crosses.

Hope this helps.
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 10, 2019 9:01 AM CST
Steve, it helps immensely! Thank you so much for helping a novice! What keeps occurring to me is how helpful it would be to just get your hands on the pollen of the latest and greatest! Would that be too cost prohibitive? Think of the time it would save! Is that something I could approach a famous hybridizer such as yourself about? Whistling Crossing Fingers! Whistling
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 10, 2019 9:03 AM CST
D'Oh! D'Oh! D'Oh! I could sell pollen!!!

Ok, I'm gonna stop hijacking this thread now!
I are sooooo smart!
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Name: Steve Todd
Illinois (Zone 5b)
Region: Illinois Plant and/or Seed Trader Daylilies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Sep 10, 2019 9:28 AM CST
Mary,

It seed selling is tricking (trust issue, germination, etc.), then pollen selling is doubly so (even more trust issue, pod setting nightmares, freshness questions, etc.).

I share pollen with pretty much two people, usually when we have gone together in buying the same plant. In those cases, it can be a money saver, but it also limits your crossing ability because you are dealing with much less pollen compared to owning the plant.
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 10, 2019 10:02 AM CST
Steve, thank you a million times for getting back to me! I will copy and paste, and think about everything you said! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! I tip my hat to you. Thank You!
I are sooooo smart!
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Photography Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 10, 2019 10:23 AM CST
Mary I'm not famous and I don't have the latest and greatest but if you ever want to try some pollen from my plants just let me know. I shared pollen with several members this year.
Not too many famous hybridizers if any are willing to share or sell pollen. Keep in mind daylilies are how these people make a living and pollen is like gold to hybridizers beacuse from 1 bloom they can cross upward to 20 or 30 flowers with it. New plants don't often give you many blooms to play around with so every bloom is a gift. Shoot I have missed work because a highly anticipated pollen parent bloomed. It had nothing to do with what else was blooming I just wanted to be there to get that pollen before the bees did. Thumbs up
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 10, 2019 4:37 PM CST
Daniel, I've said it before and I'll say it again - you are such a nice guy! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby

Where's the big kiss emoji on here? Hilarious! Hurray! Hilarious!
I are sooooo smart!
Name: Robin
Southern Michigan (Zone 6a)
Region: Michigan Seller of Garden Stuff Seed Starter Cat Lover Daylilies Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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RobinSeeds
Sep 10, 2019 6:38 PM CST
I agree
God blessed me with dirt.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Photography Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 10, 2019 8:52 PM CST
*Blush* Thank you both.
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