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Name: Evelyn
Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 21, 2018 5:55 PM CST
iciris said: Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!


I agree Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
"June is busting out all over!"🎼🎶🎵🦋🌹🌸🌾
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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IrisLilli
Dec 22, 2018 10:21 AM CST
Huzzar!! Hurray!
You don't know if it will grow until you try!
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Serjio
Dec 22, 2018 12:27 PM CST
decided to add more light to seedlings


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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Totally_Amazing
Dec 23, 2018 4:50 AM CST
Hurray! Hurray for Jan's seedlings Hurray!
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
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ShawnSteve
Dec 23, 2018 10:17 AM CST
Hi Y'all. Sorry I didn't read all the previous 9 pages, but I did grow Japanese (ensata)from Jellito's & from Park Seed, called 'Colors of the Rainbow' (?) Too long ago to recall, after buying a root at a box store, with no label. It was stunning & people used to ask me about it, when Gardenweb was in existence- no Hortiplex database to share a photo now. Gone, forever, I assume. But I just followed the directions & in a larger pot (for depth).
I think it usually took about 30 days, (sown a couple weeks before Spring equinox-- zone 8b & having the Chesapeake Bay to help out, with moderation of temperatures. The Jelitto's were the species & the Park Seed, were hybrids in various colors, which I ended up planting in an area that was too dry & had to water...Have fun, with your seedlings, as it's always nice to get a really nice surprise, when you get to see the first flowers after the wait, which seems to be awhile. Happy Holidays! Shawn
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a studio potter.
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janwax
Dec 23, 2018 10:40 AM CST
I'm afraid to branch out into any iris other than the bearded ones, Shawn I'm approaching 800 and filling up!! I do love seeing pictures of the various cultivars, however,
let the mystery be
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Serjio
Dec 23, 2018 11:57 AM CST
ShawnSteve said:Hi Y'all. Sorry I didn't read all the previous 9 pages, but I did grow Japanese (ensata)from Jellito's & from Park Seed, called 'Colors of the Rainbow' (?) Too long ago to recall, after buying a root at a box store, with no label. It was stunning & people used to ask me about it, when Gardenweb was in existence- no Hortiplex database to share a photo now. Gone, forever, I assume. But I just followed the directions & in a larger pot (for depth).
I think it usually took about 30 days, (sown a couple weeks before Spring equinox-- zone 8b & having the Chesapeake Bay to help out, with moderation of temperatures. The Jelitto's were the species & the Park Seed, were hybrids in various colors, which I ended up planting in an area that was too dry & had to water...Have fun, with your seedlings, as it's always nice to get a really nice surprise, when you get to see the first flowers after the wait, which seems to be awhile. Happy Holidays! Shawn


Hi, Shawn! I also ordered in Jelitto's seeds 10 species of irises, and tomorrow I'm going to get them
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
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ShawnSteve
Dec 23, 2018 7:32 PM CST
@janwax Aw,, only sticking with bearded? 800 sounds like you could go in business! You really ought to try some others & have even more fun.
@Serjio It sounds great to me. I used to order from Jelitto's, & loved it, but the exchange rate isn't so favorable. Good luck with the seed germination, of your order. They take special care of those seeds, in storing them properly... I had some from the space shuttle series ; 'Dusky Challenger was super nice & still want to replace some of the '"broken colors" , then find the royal purple 'Batik', as mine is blue. Shawn
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover
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iciris
Dec 23, 2018 7:39 PM CST
Shawn, I still need to find pictures of my Batik. It might be later tonight or after Christmas.
• “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover
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iciris
Dec 23, 2018 7:47 PM CST
I did look up Jelitto's and somewhere I found they have a business in Kentucky, but then I didn't find anything on the business in Kentucky. Shrug!
• “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
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ShawnSteve
Dec 23, 2018 8:20 PM CST
@iciris The Jeltto catalog online should work just fine. I think the seeds are sent in bulk shipments, then to be distributed, to customers in the U.S.A. It is easier to pass through, for inspection by Dept. of Ag. & that way you don't have to do the paper work yourself., to import the seeds. For those using the baggy method, keep in mind that seeds go through a temperature cycle, daily. Meaning, once the seeds have been through about 90 days of 'winter' in the fridge, you may as well take them out in the morning & then put them back in for about 12 hours, so they think it is springtime. Got it? ( Those tricky little seeds seem to know, exactly when it is time to germinate). If you fool them into 'spring time mode', then they tend t to start to germinate...
With the baggy method, I never used paper towels as there seems. to be some chemicals in the paper. I used coffee filters instead
As for species, try to figure out, the climate, where that particular species came from. In California, winter is the cold , or cool & "rainy "season (for those that don't live there.)
Shawn
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover
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iciris
Dec 23, 2018 10:15 PM CST
Awesome advice Shawn! Never thought about using coffee filters but it does make sense.
Thank you for the information on Jelitto's! I tip my hat to you. I think they have more seeds than any other place I've ever looked at.
• “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 23, 2018 11:13 PM CST
Jan ~ Oh, my! Yes! Have you ever ordered seed from Chiltern's in the UK? I love growing from seed, and it is time-consuming as well as space. I usually have the back porch filled every winter with seeds in cell packs and also in the basement under lights, but not this year. My seed collection is larger than actually all planted out. Many will germinate when old, so of course, I rarely throw any of them out. D'Oh! I would spend hours re-organizing them alphabetically in separate groups....warm season veggies, cool season veggies, herbs, warm season annuals, cool season annuals, perennials...etc. Now, I am lucky if they are in boxes. Maybe if I get caught up on other stuff in winter, I can reorganize the seeds again. I did not start any at all last year, and probably will not this year. We'll see. I will be lucky if the iris seeds grow. I could spend all night looking at the Jelitto catalog, but not right now. I didn't even read my paper catalog from Chiltern's this year. (So busy with the irises and all...)I usually read it from cover to cover. It is worth the read!
"June is busting out all over!"🎼🎶🎵🦋🌹🌸🌾
Russia (Zone 6b)
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Serjio
Dec 24, 2018 4:40 AM CST
@ShawnSteve Thank you for wishes!

I found that not all seedlings came from all pods. Some pods do not yet have any seedlings. Basically, these are the results of the Twilight Rhapsody pollination. In some cases, several seeds have risen from 50-60 . Either the seeds of this variety are low-fertility, or they need a longer cold stratification...

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Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
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ShawnSteve
Dec 24, 2018 12:12 PM CST
@Evelininthegarden I used to order from Chilterns in the U.K. too! Maybe the British Pound will drop, due to Brexit.. Who knows. Otherwise, even their postage is much more than ours & the price of 'petrol' is outrageous, over there... If the exchange rate were better, I probably would have done so.
Glad so many of you had such a positive response to my short post, about starting seeds that need some stratification.. I figured it was an easy , quickly understood explanation, to be of some help in the process.
Here, if I start them early enough, it usually done outdoors. I have a few trays going, to start a small flower garden, ( dozen or so, perennials, biennials & hardy annuals) then re-use the trays a bit later for a headstart with tomatoes & bell peppers. The really warm growers.
.It appears many places are closed for the holidays & begin shipping after the New Year.
If you have any other questions, just ask... Have a Merry Christmas . Shawn
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a studio potter.
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janwax
Dec 24, 2018 12:40 PM CST
evelyninthegarden said:Jan ~ Oh, my! Yes! Have you ever ordered seed from Chiltern's in the UK? I love growing from seed, and it is time-consuming as well as space. I usually have the back porch filled every winter with seeds in cell packs and also in the basement under lights, but not this year. My seed collection is larger than actually all planted out. Many will germinate when old, so of course, I rarely throw any of them out. D'Oh! I would spend hours re-organizing them alphabetically in separate groups....warm season veggies, cool season veggies, herbs, warm season annuals, cool season annuals, perennials...etc. Now, I am lucky if they are in boxes. Maybe if I get caught up on other stuff in winter, I can reorganize the seeds again. I did not start any at all last year, and probably will not this year. We'll see. I will be lucky if the iris seeds grow. I could spend all night looking at the Jelitto catalog, but not right now. I didn't even read my paper catalog from Chiltern's this year. (So busy with the irises and all...)I usually read it from cover to cover. It is worth the read!


Evelyn, I haven't ever ordered from Chiltern's...or Jelitto's . Must take a look Whistling
We have a small greenhouse that could be better utilized - but sometimes it just gets too hot in
my area of CA. Things can cook in there. Right now the outside temperature hovers around 50-55 and we're having some daily drizzle. The seeds in the planters on the deck love this weather and are responding! Every day little green sprouts are showing up! I'll bet your seeds will wake up soon, Evelyn!
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ShawnSteve
Dec 24, 2018 1:16 PM CST
@janwax Usually, people put up some sort of shading for the greenhouse, during summer. Ventilation is very important, but some do any easier 'whitewash' then remove it, after the temperature drops later in the season, before bringing the plants inside...I am uncertain of what exactly they used to 'whitewash' it but maybe you should try to find out. Even if, by looking up the terms, in a search.. Shawn
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 24, 2018 1:32 PM CST
janwax said:I'll bet your seeds will wake up soon, Evelyn!


I am hoping. If not, I will start again the following year. I want to continue to assess what I have, so I will know which ones are to remain for breeding purposes, then let them grow for awhile. It only seems logical to do it this way, since I have limited space that is fenced...for now... Whistling

In the meanwhile, I hope to collect pollen and freeze it to use the following year. Does that make any sense to you?
"June is busting out all over!"🎼🎶🎵🦋🌹🌸🌾
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
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ShawnSteve
Dec 24, 2018 1:34 PM CST
I can tell you, from having ordered from both of those vendors, the quality is rather good & so is the selection, (Unless it's sold out, when you want it!) I only had a problem with some Campanula raineri, but apparently is a rather difficult one. At the moment & due to the exchange rates (plus shipping!) & my pitiful bank account, it really isn't in the short range forecast Sticking tongue out Many orders were already placed, in autumn...Shawn
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 24, 2018 1:37 PM CST
Shawn ~ I do not order seeds every year! Since I rarely use the whole seed packet, I would have a million seeds by now...I may have that already...seeds, that is, not varieties! Whistling

"June is busting out all over!"🎼🎶🎵🦋🌹🌸🌾

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