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Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Aug 29, 2018 5:22 AM CST
Margie, you beat me to it!
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Keeps Horses I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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porkpal
Aug 29, 2018 6:15 AM CST
I have ordered tags like that from Antique Rose Emporium.
Porkpal
Name: Bonnie
Texas
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RosesnTx
Aug 29, 2018 6:26 AM CST
Kim all of your roses are gorgeous, I want them all! I'm so glad you shared them with us, I keep coming back to admire them.
Carol great job with your seedlings! I remember when your were picking out a name and decided on Holly Bell, I love that name btw.
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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MargieNY
Aug 29, 2018 8:17 AM CST
porkpal said:I have ordered tags like that from Antique Rose Emporium.


Are these it? They look similar. How did they hold up Porkpal?

http://www.antiqueroseemporium...

Observe, observe, observe
We are fortunate to "see" & appreciate nature in ways others are blind.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Keeps Horses I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Plant Identifier Raises cows Roses Farmer Celebrating Gardening: 2015
porkpal
Aug 29, 2018 9:16 AM CST
Yes, those are the ones. They have lasted for over 20 years here so far. I just tend to "lose" them by attaching them to what turns out to be an inner cane that becomes inaccessible.
Porkpal
(Zone 9b)
roseseek
Aug 29, 2018 9:43 AM CST
Thank you. The aluminum plant tags are both good and bad. I have used them since the mid 1980s off and on and I have encountered several in the past few days on older plants I was culling. Some feel that in high heat, the metal wire heats up, burning the canes. Perhaps.. The issue you should watch for is installing them too tightly so they girdle the canes as they grow. Cole is the maker and you should definitely shop around for them as the price can vary greatly. I used to buy a box of them for $3.99 at local garden stores! I know, I'm dating myself! And, they used to be QUITE a bit heavier and thicker than they are now, particularly the wires. For permanent marking of plants you expect to have for a long time, they're great because they don't deteriorate with age or weather. Because I am raising a LOT of seedlings, I don't have to worry about anyone else pruning off tags and only one of the dogs likes to pull my tags in pots, I use plastic labels inserted into the nursery cans. Cole labels are good stuff. https://www.groworganic.com/co...
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner 2020
MargieNY
Aug 29, 2018 10:36 AM CST
Thank you Porkpal and Kim for you most informative responses in reference to plant tags. I will be placing an order. - margie
Observe, observe, observe
We are fortunate to "see" & appreciate nature in ways others are blind.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Aug 29, 2018 1:20 PM CST
Roseseek - 110 days...okay...maybe next year, I'll try buying a rose already in bloom and use the flower from that as a mother. I have frozen pollen in my freezer from about 3 years ago...do you think it would still be viable? Usually my roses don't have blooms until the beginning of July...and then cold nights start in mid September (4C/39F) with freezing nights in October. Do you know if the cooler nights will slow down ripening? I have looked on hmf and have used fertile parents. Thanks! Oh, and I've opened some of the hips...and there are seeds...but they're way too immature. Darn. Your cl. Columbian is a beautiful rose!! Drooling

RosesnTX - thank you!!! I tip my hat to you. That is so nice of you!! Smiling

This is what I do for rose identification. Big Grin It may not be suitable for roses in the ground....but I love them for my pots.

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Carol
Name: Jin
Orlando, Fl (Zone 9b)
Plumeriagirl
Aug 29, 2018 3:03 PM CST
Sorry, I just got home from work. I got mine from Cole also through Amazon. I think I paid 50 like $10. I got the same brand but I went through summer . I have not experienced any burns . Maybe in time, I don't know.

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I look at the wires and they are little twistie ties and very fine.


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Name: Jin
Orlando, Fl (Zone 9b)
Plumeriagirl
Aug 29, 2018 3:09 PM CST
Porkpal, I never knew ARE sold them too. But good to know . I will check it out. It looks the same. I have mine hanging loosely on outside.
A few monrhs ago, a mailman was looking at it wondering what are these dogs tags are doing hanging on a branch. I just told him and he said it looks like an ornament on a Christmas tree :)
Carol, I love your Rose tags so cool. I try to do my own crafts but it never works for me. I don't know how to. But the closest I did was sticks and it last 2 monrhs. I am bad in home economics.
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(Zone 9b)
roseseek
Aug 29, 2018 8:26 PM CST
Carol, do the Canadian hardy roses begin flowering earlier than the HTs there, or do they continue flowering later? I am a bit confused how it works out that they provide sufficiently ripe seeds for germination while HTs won't. Colder weather can slow ripening. From what I have heard from others who have used "Jurassic Pollen", three years should be well within the usable range. Thank you. I'm glad you enjoy Cl Columbia. Not bad for an 89 year old rose, huh?

Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Aug 29, 2018 10:53 PM CST
Jin - thanks! I don't see very well...so having big bold signs really helps. And the years I planted them are helpful too. Plus with the parentage...I can see which roses are related to each other in my yard.

roseseek - I'm not sure about my friend's roses...she has a lot of hardy ones. I only have one hardy rose...John Davis...and it blooms later than the hybrid teas...although the hips are really small with only 2 seeds in each hip...so that could be why they ripen faster??? So I'll try germinating new rose bush's flowers and using my old pollen. Thank you! I tip my hat to you.

Carol
(Zone 9b)
roseseek
Aug 30, 2018 9:06 AM CST
Carol, might your friend's roses begin flowering significantly earlier than yours? Perhaps the hardier types genetically require less time to ripen? That's entirely possible and something I wouldn't encounter. Usually, shorter season types are not happy when unleashed in our "endless summer" conditions. Requiring less ripening time seems logical. If they required what HTs do, they would die out. That could be a good hint for what you should focus on.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Aug 30, 2018 11:32 AM CST
Roseseek - I think you're right that the hardier types genetically need less time to ripen. You make a lot of sense. I'm going to try one more (or two) seasons for hybridizing HTs. If that doesn't work, I'll be done. Rolling my eyes.
Thanks!!
Carol

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