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Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)   Mustbnuts Aug 29, 2018 5:22 AM CST |
| Margie, you beat me to it! |
Name: Porkpal Richmond, TX             porkpal Aug 29, 2018 6:15 AM CST |
| I have ordered tags like that from Antique Rose Emporium. Porkpal |
Name: Bonnie Texas  RosesnTx Aug 29, 2018 6:26 AM CST |
| Kim all of your roses are gorgeous, I want them all! I'm so glad you shared them with us, I keep coming back to admire them. Carol great job with your seedlings! I remember when your were picking out a name and decided on Holly Bell, I love that name btw. |
Name: Margie NY (Zone 7a)   MargieNY Aug 29, 2018 8:17 AM CST |
porkpal said:I have ordered tags like that from Antique Rose Emporium. Are these it? They look similar. How did they hold up Porkpal? http://www.antiqueroseemporium... Observe, observe, observe We are fortunate to "see" & appreciate nature in ways others are blind. |
Name: Porkpal Richmond, TX porkpal Aug 29, 2018 9:16 AM CST |
| Yes, those are the ones. They have lasted for over 20 years here so far. I just tend to "lose" them by attaching them to what turns out to be an inner cane that becomes inaccessible. Porkpal |
(Zone 9b) roseseek Aug 29, 2018 9:43 AM CST |
| Thank you. The aluminum plant tags are both good and bad. I have used them since the mid 1980s off and on and I have encountered several in the past few days on older plants I was culling. Some feel that in high heat, the metal wire heats up, burning the canes. Perhaps.. The issue you should watch for is installing them too tightly so they girdle the canes as they grow. Cole is the maker and you should definitely shop around for them as the price can vary greatly. I used to buy a box of them for $3.99 at local garden stores! I know, I'm dating myself! And, they used to be QUITE a bit heavier and thicker than they are now, particularly the wires. For permanent marking of plants you expect to have for a long time, they're great because they don't deteriorate with age or weather. Because I am raising a LOT of seedlings, I don't have to worry about anyone else pruning off tags and only one of the dogs likes to pull my tags in pots, I use plastic labels inserted into the nursery cans. Cole labels are good stuff. https://www.groworganic.com/co... |
Name: Margie NY (Zone 7a) MargieNY Aug 29, 2018 10:36 AM CST |
| Thank you Porkpal and Kim for you most informative responses in reference to plant tags. I will be placing an order. - margie Observe, observe, observe We are fortunate to "see" & appreciate nature in ways others are blind. |
Name: Carol Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)  Canadian_Rose Aug 29, 2018 1:20 PM CST |
Roseseek - 110 days...okay...maybe next year, I'll try buying a rose already in bloom and use the flower from that as a mother. I have frozen pollen in my freezer from about 3 years ago...do you think it would still be viable? Usually my roses don't have blooms until the beginning of July...and then cold nights start in mid September (4C/39F) with freezing nights in October. Do you know if the cooler nights will slow down ripening? I have looked on hmf and have used fertile parents. Thanks! Oh, and I've opened some of the hips...and there are seeds...but they're way too immature. Darn. Your cl. Columbian is a beautiful rose!!  RosesnTX - thank you!!!  That is so nice of you!!  This is what I do for rose identification.  It may not be suitable for roses in the ground....but I love them for my pots.  Carol |
Name: Jin Orlando, Fl (Zone 9b) Plumeriagirl Aug 29, 2018 3:03 PM CST |
Sorry, I just got home from work. I got mine from Cole also through Amazon. I think I paid 50 like $10. I got the same brand but I went through summer . I have not experienced any burns . Maybe in time, I don't know. I look at the wires and they are little twistie ties and very fine.   |
Name: Jin Orlando, Fl (Zone 9b) Plumeriagirl Aug 29, 2018 3:09 PM CST |
| Porkpal, I never knew ARE sold them too. But good to know . I will check it out. It looks the same. I have mine hanging loosely on outside. A few monrhs ago, a mailman was looking at it wondering what are these dogs tags are doing hanging on a branch. I just told him and he said it looks like an ornament on a Christmas tree :) Carol, I love your Rose tags so cool. I try to do my own crafts but it never works for me. I don't know how to. But the closest I did was sticks and it last 2 monrhs. I am bad in home economics. |
(Zone 9b) roseseek Aug 29, 2018 8:26 PM CST |
| Carol, do the Canadian hardy roses begin flowering earlier than the HTs there, or do they continue flowering later? I am a bit confused how it works out that they provide sufficiently ripe seeds for germination while HTs won't. Colder weather can slow ripening. From what I have heard from others who have used "Jurassic Pollen", three years should be well within the usable range. Thank you. I'm glad you enjoy Cl Columbia. Not bad for an 89 year old rose, huh? |
Name: Carol Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b) Canadian_Rose Aug 29, 2018 10:53 PM CST |
| Jin - thanks! I don't see very well...so having big bold signs really helps. And the years I planted them are helpful too. Plus with the parentage...I can see which roses are related to each other in my yard. roseseek - I'm not sure about my friend's roses...she has a lot of hardy ones. I only have one hardy rose...John Davis...and it blooms later than the hybrid teas...although the hips are really small with only 2 seeds in each hip...so that could be why they ripen faster??? So I'll try germinating new rose bush's flowers and using my old pollen. Thank you! Carol |
(Zone 9b) roseseek Aug 30, 2018 9:06 AM CST |
| Carol, might your friend's roses begin flowering significantly earlier than yours? Perhaps the hardier types genetically require less time to ripen? That's entirely possible and something I wouldn't encounter. Usually, shorter season types are not happy when unleashed in our "endless summer" conditions. Requiring less ripening time seems logical. If they required what HTs do, they would die out. That could be a good hint for what you should focus on. |
Name: Carol Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b) Canadian_Rose Aug 30, 2018 11:32 AM CST |
Roseseek - I think you're right that the hardier types genetically need less time to ripen. You make a lot of sense. I'm going to try one more (or two) seasons for hybridizing HTs. If that doesn't work, I'll be done.  Thanks!! Carol |
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