Daylilies forum: daylilies from seed

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PA (Zone 6a)
pinkruffles
Sep 4, 2018 11:45 AM CST
Can someone answer this question for me? If a pollinating insect is moving from flower to flower on THE SAME DAYLILY, will any resulting seeds produce flowers that MOST LIKELY will look just like the mother plant? Or could they look completely different from the mother plant?
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Sep 4, 2018 12:23 PM CST
I will give my generalized answer. If the pollinator were limited to just that one plant, and if that one plant were capable of self pollination I would think there would be a very good chance of the offspring looking very much like the parent plant, but also with the possibility of some of the offspring looking completely different. The child plants might look very similar to the parent, but I would not think they would look identical for the most part.
I don't have an estimate of the odds, someone with a better knowledge of genetics might could give the odds.
PA (Zone 6a)
pinkruffles
Sep 4, 2018 1:49 PM CST
Larry, only some plants can self-pollinate then?
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Composter Garden Photography Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Region: Alabama
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Seedfork
Sep 4, 2018 2:11 PM CST
Most diploids are self incompatible.
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Sep 4, 2018 7:58 PM CST
I have some seedlings that have come from self pollinating or bee pollinated pod. The resulting seedlings look similar to parents but not exact replicas. Here are 3 seedlings that came from Forsyth Summer Snow pod.

Parent : Forsyth Summer Snow

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Seedling #1
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Seedling #2
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Seedling #3
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All the offsprings are not as floriferous as the parent. The flowers sometimes do not open well. THere are also curling of the petals on the offsprings. Overall, I would say that the offsprings are definitely not as vigorous as the parent. Also the foliage are not as nice on the offsprings compared to the parent.
[Last edited by kousa - Sep 5, 2018 12:26 AM (+)]
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Sep 5, 2018 5:04 AM CST
Same here. I harvested some insect pollinated seeds of South Seas (a tetraploid). The results make me think that South Seas was also the pollen parent. Not too much variety. I have already dug them and given some away. A few are surviving up against the fence on top of the soil. Daylilies are tough!

South Seas (Moldovan 1993) (Chicago Apache x Ming Porcelain)
Thumb of 2018-09-05/blue23rose/d9d737

Seedlings:
Thumb of 2018-09-05/blue23rose/3ad23c
Thumb of 2018-09-05/blue23rose/829b7b
Thumb of 2018-09-05/blue23rose/85b8e4
Thumb of 2018-09-05/blue23rose/89efa0
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Vickie
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
Bee Lover Garden Photography Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: United States of America
Region: Indiana Garden Art Annuals Clematis Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 2
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blue23rose
Sep 5, 2018 5:12 AM CST
Here is another case: Lady Neva seedlings look very similar to their mama. I know these were self-pollinated because it was the only thing blooming in my garden at the time. Again, these were just thrown up against the fence, but they are thriving!

Lady Neva (Alexander-Moody, 1970) is a diploid with no parentage listed.


Seedlings:
Thumb of 2018-09-05/blue23rose/ee42ca
Thumb of 2018-09-05/blue23rose/814c9b
Thumb of 2018-09-05/blue23rose/5f6fa1

Vickie
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
PA (Zone 6a)
pinkruffles
Sep 5, 2018 8:02 AM CST
Thanks everyone for answering my question, and for taking the time to post pictures!

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