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Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Sep 4, 2018 7:58 PM CST
I am wondering if you all could recommend roses, based on your personal experience, matching the following characteristics:

1) High disease resistance against blackspots, rust and mildews.
2) Does well with 4-5 hrs of sunlight.
3) Location: North-facing.
4) Zone: 10a-10b
5) Neighborhood microclimate: windy/slight foggy morning with warm sunny noon until evening.
6) Probably do well in the large container.

I just moved two of my roses, Mister Lincoln and Princess Alexandra of Kent, to the backyard this morning because I reached the decision that they will do better under 6+ hours of sunlight with less wind and fog. Yup, San Francisco microclimate is odd like that. While it's windy and foggy in the front side of the house, the backyard is less windy and foggy and warmer, go figure. The reason I moved the roses because although the roses are growing fine and even bloomed once, they are a magnet for diseases. I don't want to be frequently spraying them when the disease trigger is the microclimatic condition.

The following are the roses, planted in the same north-facing location, that are doing well so far:
1) The Poet's Wife.
2) Claire Austin ( for which, I will be creating a separate thread to discuss the budding question).
3) Ebb Tide
4) Lady of the Shalott
5) Lexy

Thanks,
Shyam

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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Sep 4, 2018 11:19 PM CST

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Playboy has always been my best rose when it comes to disease resistance and I'm sure it will be happy in a large container.

Rose (Rosa 'Playboy')

All of Ping Lim's roses are free of black spot in my garden. Rainbow Sorbet is a particularly nice one.

Rose (Rosa 'Rainbow Sorbet')
Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Sep 4, 2018 11:56 PM CST
Thanks, @Zuzu!
I love the Playboy, and Ping Lim's collection! They have the Grandma's Blessing, which I have been looking for quite some time now. Last time I checked, it was available in Northland Rosarium only to be later informed that it was out of stock.
Name: Bonnie
Texas
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RosesnTx
Sep 5, 2018 8:14 AM CST
I think Quiteness would be perfect in all aspects except the large pot, it can grow to be a large rose so not sure how it would do in a pot.
East TN (Zone 7a)
Kesroses
Sep 5, 2018 8:51 AM CST
Coffee Country?

I don't grow roses in San Francisco so I hesitate to give a recommend based on my own experience. But on HMF there are people living in Northern California (including Beth who visits here) who seem to have success with it. I just got it this summer from ARE and it's in a pot till the weather cools enough to plant it. I can tell you that so far, no blackspot. It is on the northwest side of our house and gets about 3-4 hrs of afternoon sun. It grows and blooms. The roses are unusual; sort of a mauve, gold and buff combo that changes as the rose ages. Maybe a little bit like Distant Drums or Chipmunk, a mini which I also have.

Unfortunately this brand new rose, still in a pot sitting on our porch step, is a big favorite with the deer. They have walked around other plants, including other roses, to get to this one and eat the buds and new growth. So I'm not sure about fragrance yet.
Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Sep 5, 2018 1:45 PM CST
@RosesnTx: Quietness is a gorgeous rose! I would rather plant it in the backyard, thanks!

@Kesroses: Thanks a lot for a detailed info on Coffee Country! Checking out the rose online led me to the V.Viraraghavan roses! I wasn't aware of the breeder until now. I love the unique shade of Coffee Country. I ordered Coffee Country and Pink Rosette from ARE. Both are compatible for container growing and are disease resistant.
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Sep 5, 2018 3:05 PM CST

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Shyam, here's a link to the Viraraghavan roses in our database. I have five of them and I wouldn't call any but Naga Belle disease resistant. Coffee Country, Emina, Magic East, and Tipu's Flame all get black spot in my garden.

https://tinyurl.com/y7b5ja6h
Name: John
Helensville, New Zealand
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S124AB
Sep 6, 2018 4:09 AM CST
Shyam

Maybe it's time to look at some old time roses, which can have stunning fragrances, as well as being hardy with cold and damp weather.

This article is an interesting read, the grower isn't a million miles from SF. Go for a drive and check them out. It's an old website, but presume it's still in operation.
http://www.rosesofyesterday.co...
Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Sep 7, 2018 12:44 AM CST
@S124AB: Thanks for introducing me to the nursery! They do appear to have a good collection that's worth a long drive.

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