Roses forum: # 1 Challenge Growing Roses - What's Yours?

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Name: John
Helensville, New Zealand
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S124AB
Sep 6, 2018 4:53 AM CST
Hi !
I'm in the process of compiling a series of Rose Care Tips, based on what you, the rose grower are having the biggest struggle with, and I need your help!

While we live in various locations around the world, difficulties one person may encounter are seldom unique, although they might believe "Am I the only one?"

Identifying those that cause growers most concern, and gauging the scale of the problem is what I'm trying to achieve, and then find the best solutions.

So I want to hear what your # 1 Challenge is.... and it won't take you long !
(Dave the Site Admin HAS approved me posting this, so you know it's not spam)

Click on this link which will take you to a secure page.
https://go.bucketforms.com/ds/...

For those of you I have talked with personally, there's no need to complete this as I have entered your comments into the page already.

Thanks In Advance.
John
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Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Kristinelego
Sep 7, 2018 1:46 PM CST
I am so sorry that no one has responded to your post.
I actually am blessed this summer that I haven't really had any growing challenges. So I am not much help
No humidity.no rain, no wind.
A bit of mildew pretty quickly addressed with a spray of milk
You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Sep 7, 2018 2:51 PM CST

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I think people are responding on the survey page, Kris.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Sep 7, 2018 3:23 PM CST
Yes, that's what I did. Smiling
Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Kristinelego
Sep 7, 2018 8:07 PM CST
Oh good
I see zero answers and then I feel so bad thinking that no one has answered
I am so glad that answers are on the survey whewww
You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite

bart2018
Sep 8, 2018 5:31 AM CST
O, jeez, where do I begin? I guess if I have to choose one challenge, I'd say it's the fact that my huge garden is in a woods, about a 20-minute drive from my home, and has no running water,house or electricity!
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin (Zone 8a)
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hampartsum
Sep 8, 2018 9:42 AM CST
I second your search John, however perhaps my greatest challenge moves exactly in the other direction. I keep finding that most of not all the general information holds true here partly. This is applied to diseases and pests, growth size, growth rate, fertilizing, watering, pruning. Is it possible to generate general growing tips, that can be of use worldwide?. I hope so, so would love to see forthcoming responses to this thread once the compilation of wordwide data is done. However when it comes to the average rose gardener, at least in my end of the world and in my garden conditions, I definitely need a Google translator!
Arturo
PS I did fill out the form.
Name: John
Helensville, New Zealand
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S124AB
Sep 8, 2018 2:32 PM CST
hampartsum said:I second your search John, however perhaps my greatest challenge moves exactly in the other direction. I keep finding that most of not all the general information holds true here partly. This is applied to diseases and pests, growth size, growth rate, fertilizing, watering, pruning. Is it possible to generate general growing tips, that can be of use worldwide?. I hope so, so would love to see forthcoming responses to this thread once the compilation of wordwide data is done. However when it comes to the average rose gardener, at least in my end of the world and in my garden conditions, I definitely need a Google translator!
Arturo
PS I did fill out the form.


Arturo
Yes, I believe the basics of growing roses will apply to similar environments in any country. If you have humid, moist, damp conditions for much of the year, then you will face similar challenges to other people in growing roses in those conditions, whichever country. Sure, there maybe some minor variances but the similarities far outweigh the differences.
The same for drought prone habitats, Outback Australia, California, and I suspect parts of Argentina will be facing similar issues of excessive dry periods etc.
Name: Jin
Orlando, Fl (Zone 9b)
Plumeriagirl
Sep 8, 2018 6:26 PM CST
I am not sure where I stand yet. So, for me is mostly too much rain and I just got the hang of using ferterlizer on regular basis . It is just the beginning so I won't know till next yr or so.
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Sep 8, 2018 6:48 PM CST
Well, I just responded to the survey. For me the biggest challenge is pests/insects. I have rose midge, Jap. beetles, thrips, rose slugs affecting my roses every year. I do not wish to use insecticide so my roses always look terrible. Though once in awhile the insects leave a few good flowers for me to enjoy. I am not sure whether they did it by their goodness or they just missed these buds or maybe these roses were not palatable to them?

bart2018
Sep 9, 2018 5:02 AM CST
Kousa, I hear you talkin'! Insect pests are a terrible challenge. Here in Tuscany, Italy, where I live and garden, we are cursed with these awful beetles called Oxythyrea Funesta. They come out just when the roses start their main flush, and ruin the flowers, eating them from within,and rendering them sterile as well.Spraying DOES NOT work; in fact, I think it actually made the problem worse (also, before I started trying to spray against insects, I didn't have thrips, just aphids, ;now I have thrips, and far, far too few aphids).
The appraoach that is helping seems to be Integrated Pest Management. I found some scientists in Budapest that make pherormone traps for the beetles, and for several years have hung the traps in the woods below the garden,to catch as many as I can before they fly in. I am also planting trees down there, to act as a physical screen. And I try to pick off as many beetles as I possibly can by hand and put them in plastic bottles with soap to kill them (never crush them). The problem has not been eliminated, but there has been a notable improvement.
Name: Donna Marshall
Texas, USA
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hndmarshall
Sep 16, 2018 1:33 PM CST
Growing challenge?... ok here's my list

My eyes and Desire

I see roses, I want roses, I got to have roses

kinda like I am obsessed...lol
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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Paul2032
Sep 16, 2018 1:55 PM CST
1. The deer eat the new growth and tiny buds each spring. They seem to prefer some cultivars..... 2, Aphids early in the season. I don't spray on a regular basis but use a some of the small containers. 3. Being diligent in deadheading.
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Oct 9, 2018 11:13 AM CST
Sub-zero temperatures, I grow mostly hybrid tea roses and the mediocre quality of more and more roses for sale.
I used to buy the cheap brand and they did fairly well for at least one year, but now some are for all practical purposes DOA.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 9, 2018 2:34 PM CST
RpR - can you grow some roses (that you really, really want) in pots and overwinter them in the garage? That's what I do...I never lose a rose this way...and I grow over 50 varieties of HTs, GF, Fl, etc. Yes, I'm finding that it's hard to get the roses I really want to get. I wish I could order from the states...there is so much variety there. Although I'm very grateful for Palantine and Hortico.

Carol
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Oct 9, 2018 6:53 PM CST
Canadian_Rose said:RpR - can you grow some roses (that you really, really want) in pots and overwinter them in the garage? That's what I do...I never lose a rose this way...and I grow over 50 varieties of HTs, GF, Fl, etc. Yes, I'm finding that it's hard to get the roses I really want to get. I wish I could order from the states...there is so much variety there. Although I'm very grateful for Palantine and Hortico.
Carol

The garage is thirty feet from the house and unheated, back when two cars used the garage, that just might have worked but then there would have been no room in the garage.
I have good soil for roses and before mom died, and I had more drive, plus the choice of roses from where I am was actually quite large.
Mom died 8 years ago and the nursery situation seems to die with her, plus again, I just did not have the drive I once had or money, so things imploded to a degree.
One thing I have fixed, and did not think was as bad as it probably might have been so, I heavily trimmed a tree next to the rose garden and for the first year in a bit, the roses did fairly well this summer even though 3 new ones were, DOA or darn near .
Maybe it was the odd ball weather, by August even roses that were half in the grave looked quite good, BUT---- Now I have to cover new roses.
I now bury all to most every year and that has worked pretty well but new roses do not have truly established roots so I cannot tip them.
The new ones I simply covered last year, came out better than expected except one I really, really , really wanted to save died but one I thought was dead, and did not give a da-n about survived so we shall see.
If the winter is wet, not much to worry about ; if the winter is cold and dry, I pray a lot.


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Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 9, 2018 8:23 PM CST
RpR - my garage is unheated too...it just depends on if it's insulated or not. Mine is insulated. If you want to try with one rose bush in your garage...I have a method that works 100% for me. Otherwise no worries.

Isn't that the way, that the rose you really loved died....bummer. You go through a lot of work to bury your roses...that sounds exhausting. What we do for our roses, huh? Smiling

Sounds like you may have been going through depression over your Mom's death? That can suck the pleasure out of things that you love doing. I'm sorry for your loss.

Carol
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Oct 14, 2018 4:11 PM CST
My number one challenge to growing roses is possums. I can keep out the pademelons and bandicoots with a knee high fence that I can step over, but possums cannot be stopped. The other night a possum must have walked along the power wire and ended up on the roof. He could have then climbed down into the garden from there but he chose to go down the plastic pipe I am using to train a climbing rose on and eat only that rose. He didn't even touch the ground to do it. I think he must have been a small ring-tail possum because I would have heard him on the roof if he were a big brush-tail possum. I ended up putting an old paint can lid on the pipe to block him from getting down there again.

I put a trap at the bottom of the pipe but didn't catch anything, however, I did catch two possums in a trap near the apple tree. So far there have been no other critters in the garden except one sheep who could not help herself and leapt the fence to nibble on Troilus. I am adding another strand of wire to that fence today. I have already started to refer to that particular garden bed as 'the stalag' because of the extra high fence.
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Not a very good photo but you can see the height of the chicken wire that keeps the critters out and the size of the pademelon behind it. Pademelons don't jump high like other kangaroos so a short fence keeps them out.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Oct 14, 2018 5:09 PM CST
Fortunately our possums don't seem interested in roses. There are plenty of them, but they seem to prefer bugs and stuff.
Porkpal
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Oct 14, 2018 5:22 PM CST
Our possums are cute and cuddly vegetarian eating machines. I once asked a local nurseryman if there was anything possums didn't eat and he replied, "Garden gnomes, but only the concrete ones because they rip straight through those plaster ones."
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For fruit trees I put a piece of stove pipe around the trunk so they can't get a grip and then put a pot lid on the top so that if something does make it that far it has to reach over the top of the lid which makes it tilt so the critter slides off. I have traps in suitable places as well. Possums are territorial so if you get a well behaved one you let him stay to keep out the bad ones.

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