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SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
vaporvac
Nov 21, 2018 10:53 PM CST
Yay for new roses! I recently received Dreamland, Ascot and Peggy M. Coming from High Country roses in the spring will be Applejack, Bordeaux Citiscape, Christian J, Victorian Memory, Felix LeClerc and LaFrance. There are a few exchanges coming in the spring both rooted and cuttings and then of course there's Antique Rose Emporium. I have a couple from there that I have yet to get such a Seven Sisters, Roxburghii and Indigo.Oh, and Greetings for early Summer! Smiling After this year I think my orders will be much smaller. At least I hope so! Oops, I forgot I still need to order Cinco de Mayo, Quicksilver and Wedding Bells from Chamblee. Then I'll be through for the next few years. Well, except for cuttings.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Nov 21, 2018 11:13 PM CST

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I'm thinking of buying a replacement Blue for You from Northland Rosarium. The one I have came from Vintage Gardens a million years ago and has never grown beyond 18 inches in all those years. Northland's having a sale this Friday (November 23rd): 15% off your entire online order if you use code BF15 when checking out.

Northland's shipping for two roses is the same as shipping for one, so I'd get another rose also, but I can't decide between Fired Up, Princess Charlene de Monaco, or Sierra Lady. Does anyone here grow any of these?
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Nov 22, 2018 3:08 AM CST
Zuzu - so happy to hear you have your new roses already!! Green Grin! Sorry, I don't grow any of those roses...so I'm no help.

Vaporvac - good for you too! You ordered a lot of roses!! I hope they'll be awesome roses for you.

Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Nov 22, 2018 7:43 AM CST
My only "new" roses this year are the cuttings that I have been growing for various periods of time that I am finally putting into the ground. The problem is that, over time, I lost track of who was who. Some had bloomed which made ID easier, but I may be surprised as the babies grow, and possibly out grow their permanent homes.
Porkpal
Name: Ken Wilkinson
N.E. GA. (Cornelia) (Zone 7b)
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KenNEGA
Nov 22, 2018 12:51 PM CST
I've been in the process of rearranging some of my garden. I REALLY like big bouquets of the same variety. So, I've made some tough decisions this summer and pulled several bush's that are winter tender and I'm replacing with more that I already have. All of my HT's I'll have at LEAST 2 of each variety. Everything I have received so far has come from K&M Roses.
Sept.---1 more Molineux
1Mavrik
Oct.---1 Crystalline
1 Mavrik
Nov.---1 Lady Emma Hamilton
1 Dream Time
2 Ring of Fire
Coming from Regan's in Feb.
2 Sparkle and Shine
Coming from Edmunds in Feb.
4 Gemini
1 Tropicana (for a public garden I take care of)
It's a rose!!! It has nothing to do with life and death.
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
vaporvac
Nov 22, 2018 2:06 PM CST
Ken, mine aren't big enough to cut yet, but I also get everything in pairs and propagate more if they're out of patent. Hopefully, I'll soon have enough that a few bouquets here and there won't denude the beds. : )

Carol, It seems like a lot, but I have a large yard and they get eaten up in the space if they're tiny or few. My main problem are all the climbers I've bought for an arbor that's yet to be build. It's a pain to pot them up and haul them in for the winter. However, I had a brainstorm this week and decided to plant them all inside my front brick wall and whenever the arbor gets built I'll move them then. If I decide to keep them there I'll just take cuttings since most of them are oldies. The location receives perfect sun and it will be much easier to make beds out of grass than felling trees and invasive bushes and vines. : ))
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
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Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Kristinelego
Nov 22, 2018 4:18 PM CST
I need to place a couple of orders, 3 Desdamona from. DA.
Violets pride tree rose and Double Delight from Regans and jusy maybe a Boscobel as well.
You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite
Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
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AquaEyes
Nov 22, 2018 8:12 PM CST
Everything I've ordered is for my cemetery project. I'll be breaking down what's left of my rose collection here and moving those roses there as well, over the next year or two.

This is what's coming so far, in April 2019 -- sorting them by class would be clumsy, so they're alphabetically sorted. If you haven't heard of them, check them out on HelpMeFind -- I purposely sought out the uncommon and "found-roses", but also added familiar others that were appropriate and on-sale at the time.

From High Country Roses:

'Alfred Colomb'
"Beulah Blakely"
'Dupontii'
'Enfant de France' (the HP)
"Fairmount Proserpine"
"Fairmount Red"
'Francis E. Lester'
'General Jacqueminot'
'Gloire de Guilan'
'Great Western'
'Harrison's Yellow'
"Hattie Burton"
'Henri Martin'
'Henry Nevard'
'Jacques Cartier' / 'Marchessa Bocella'
'Mrs. John Laing'
'Nevada'
"Paul Ricault -- in commerce as" (which is likely 'Paul Perras')
"Souvenir du President Lincoln -- in commerce as" (original was red)
'Stanwell Perpetual'
'Sydonie'
'William Lobb'


From Rose Petals Nursery:

"Abbott and Burns Family Rose"
'Anna Olivier'
"Baretta St. Bourbon"
"Chester Cemetery No. 2"
'Comice de Tarn-et-Garonne'
"Creekside Manor Tea" aka 'Jean Bach-Sisley'
"Emmie Gray"
'Etoile de Mai'
"Green Mount Red"
'Kazanlik'
'Kronprinzessin Viktoria'
'Mme Joseph Bonnaire'
"Mrs. Keays' Faded Pink Monthly"
"Ornament des Bosquets -- in commerce as"
'Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler'
"Picayune"
'Pierre de St. Cyr'
'Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux'
"Roseville Noisette"
"Souvenir d'un Ami -- in commerce as"


From Rogue Valley Roses:

'Deuil de Paul Fontaine'
'Louis Van Houtte'
'Mme Platz'
"Oakington Ruby"


From Joy Creek Nursery:

"Deuil de Dr. Reynaud -- in commerce as" (probably 'Philemon Cochet')
'Ghislaine de Feligonde'
'Honorine de Brabant'
'Pompon Blanc Parfait'


From A Reverence for Roses:

'Baby Faurax'
"Barfield White Climber"
'Dupuy Jamain'
"St. Thomas China"




I received a few from Angel Gardens a couple of months ago -- they're already in the ground:

"Barbara's Pasture Rose"
'Felicite et Perpetue'
'Gruss an Teplitz'
'Kiftsgate' -- I hope it's the real thing, because something about the foliage is making me wonder
'Rambling Rector'
'Seagull'


And some others I had waiting for this, or donated this year -- all in the ground now:

'Baronne Prevost'
'Bella Donna'
'Belle Isis'
'Belle sans Flatterie'
'Botzaris'
"Canary Island Rose"
'Capitaine John Ingram'
'Celsiana'
'Delambre'
'Laneii'
'Morlettii'
'Nigrette' (x2)
'Nuits de Young' (x2)
'Orphelline de Juliet' (X2)
'Portlandica'
"Pulich Children"
Rosa blanda
Rosa fedtschenkoana
'Salet'
'Soupert et Notting'


:-)

~Christopher
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Nov 23, 2018 6:57 AM CST
Judging from the ones with which I am familiar, it sounds like a great collection. I must look up some of the strangers.
Porkpal
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Nov 23, 2018 9:02 AM CST
OK, Beulah Blakely's name intrigued me, so I had to find out more about this rose. It is not in HMF, unfortunately. Web search led me to High Country Roses. This is what they wrote about the rose, "This interesting rose was discovered growing on the grave of young Beulah Blakey, who passed away in 1890 at the age of 8. This loving tribute has survived the years on minimal care in tough environment. The Riverside Cemetery plant is about 2 feet tall, but I suspect it may grow a little larger in your yard. Clusters of deep pink blooms are accented by glossy rich green foliage."

Well, I needed to find out more. Further research revealed this, "By Carol Johnson, CGHS Member

On May 16th I attended the Fairmount Cemetery Heritage Rose Sale. To celebrate Fairmount's 125th Anniversary, the Fairmount Heritage Foundation, in partnership with High Country Roses, propagated new cuttings from several roses never previously available commercially. I purchased a Beulah Blakley, a mystery rose new this year from historic Riverside Cemetery. How interesting to find that such mystery roses are given the name of the person on the nearest tombstone.

Then, on a Memorial Day visit to Riverside Cemetery I found Beulah Blakley's tombstone in Block 20, Lot 212. It reads: "Beulah B. Blakley, Eldest child of A.A. and Ophelia Blakley, Born: June 24, 1881, Died: April 15, 1890." In front of the tombstone is her rose bush, which was propagated, one of which I bought, and which is now planted in my garden.

Now I want to know more about Beulah Blakley and her family. Find A Grave includes her obituary from the Rocky Mountain News on 16 April 1890: "BUELAH (sic) V. BLAKLEY – Died – in Denver, Apr 15, daughter of A. A. and Ophelia Blakley, aged 8 years and 10 months. Funeral from residence of P.W. Blakley, 3545 Blake Street, 2 o-clock today. Friends invited. Riverside Cemetery record, Blakeley, Berelah (sic) V., age 8, interred 4/16/1890" (Find A Grave Memorial #32766991).

In checking for other Blakleys buried at Riverside, I find one of Beulah's younger brothers is buried in the same block and lot: Harry E. Blakley was born on June 1, 1889, and died on June 4, 1890, only two months after Beulah. His tombstone's inscription reads: "Youngest child of A. A. & Ophelia L. Blakley" and "Our Baby Boy" (Find A Grave Memorial #99597319.).......

Now whenever I look at my Beulah Blakley rose in my backyard, I will recall a morning of what I call "Pajama Genealogy", when I sat at my computer and researched Beulah and her Blakley family in Denver."

Well Carol and I are of a similar ilk. I often do pajama genealogy as well. I wanted to know what Buelah and her brother may have died from. So I started to look up pandemics (suspecting flu) during the 1890's and yup, there was a flu pandemic that year. There was also a typhoid epidemic as well but pretty much confined to eating seafood in Chicago. Flu sounded more likely. I had six great aunts/uncles die from the flu pandemic in 1918, which is why is first thought of flu (get your shots!). Although it sounds like we won't know why Buelah and her brother passed, it could have been from the flu. I found this interesting (hope you did too) and am seeing where Buelah might fit in my already too tight yard for another rose. Too bad there is not room next to Vick's Caprice, my other only old rose. She is a right pretty little thing.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Nov 23, 2018 2:56 PM CST

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I placed the Northland order for Blue for You and decided on Princess Charlene de Monaco as the second rose, but then I went ahead and ordered four more: Arctic Blue, Rosie the Riveter, Frida Kahlo, and Easy on the Eyes. I saw the last two at an expensive nursery last year. They were gorgeous, but way too pricey, so I didn't buy them. I've been kicking myself ever since for passing them up, so now I'm happy.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Nov 23, 2018 7:16 PM CST
Zuzu - Arctic Blue is very eye-catching...isn't it. Big Grin I love the look of it (I don't have it though).

Mustbnuts - Six!! Wow...it's so hard to believe that the flu can kill us. But that was a horrendous period of time.

Ken - since you love big bouquets, it sounds like you'll be very happy with your reimagining of your rose garden. Smiling Hopefully you'll take pictures for us. Drooling

Vaporvac - so you're another one who loves multiples of roses. Green Grin! And I think your idea for your climbers is a really good one!
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Nov 23, 2018 7:55 PM CST

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Arctic Blue is eye-catching, Carol, and I'm buying it solely on the strength of Weeks' official portrait of it. I haven't seen the rose in "real life," so I hope this isn't one of those glamour shots that bear little resemblance to the actual rose.

On the Northland website and others featuring the Weeks picture, it looks like this:

https://www.northlandrosarium....

On the Autumn Hill website, however, it looks much less exciting:

https://www.autumnhillnursery....

There was an even less attractive picture of it on the Springhill website last year, but I can't find it now.

Oh, well. I'm hoping for the best.
Name: Ken Wilkinson
N.E. GA. (Cornelia) (Zone 7b)
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KenNEGA
Nov 25, 2018 9:17 PM CST
I added two roses to my Reagan order. Two South Africa's.
It's a rose!!! It has nothing to do with life and death.
Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Nov 25, 2018 11:35 PM CST
zuzu said:I placed the Northland order for Blue for You and decided on Princess Charlene de Monaco as the second rose, but then I went ahead and ordered four more: Arctic Blue, Rosie the Riveter, Frida Kahlo, and Easy on the Eyes. I saw the last two at an expensive nursery last year. They were gorgeous but way too pricey, so I didn't buy them. I've been kicking myself ever since for passing them up, so now I'm happy.


I ordered Frida Khalo and Rosie the Riveter as well! I had them on my wishlist for a long time! I am thinking of getting Grandma's Blessing. Is it worth it?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Nov 25, 2018 11:39 PM CST

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I don't know anything about Grandma's Blessing, but Ping Lim's roses have superior disease resistance, so it's probably a good rose to buy.
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Rebekah
Nov 26, 2018 1:50 AM CST
I was recently offered a deal on roses I couldn't pass up so I've already received my order for the year. Soul Sister, Dark Desire, Abraham Darby, Othello, Mellow yellow, South Africa, unknown OGR, 2 Evelyn, Summer Sun, one white Kordes (I'll have to look up the name later.) Easy on the Eyes, Honey Perfum, and a rose without a tag because it had good foliage. So far 4 are planted and three given away but I'm still making headway getting them into the garden.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Nov 27, 2018 12:57 AM CST

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Well, I just ordered four more rose bushes from Antique Rose Emporium because they had a Cyber Monday special -- no shipping charges on online orders. I ordered Star of the Republic because I've always loved the pictures of it I've seen, Soul Sister because mine from Chamblee's is still a pathetic twig even after two years in the ground, General Schablikine because the gophers ate mine, and Summer Sun because I've never been disappointed with a rose with "summer" in its name.
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
vaporvac
Nov 27, 2018 1:58 AM CST
I like your observation about roses with sun in their names. Maybe next year! I also ordered Star of the Republic as I recently saw some lovely pictures of it. I don't know why it never was on my radar before. Another unknown that I ordered is called Caroline Hunt. It just seemed to called my name, but maybe someone has experience with this Rose that could share. I got a few others as well, but these were the two but never really heard of.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Nov 27, 2018 12:59 PM CST
Zuzu - yes...that's quite the different in charm between the first picture and the second. Interesting.

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