Hydrangeas forum: Hydrangea paniculata 'Tardiva'

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Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Oct 3, 2018 4:30 PM CST
Hydrangea paniculata 'Tardiva', 2018 photo, Common Name: Panicle Hydrangea, Size: 8x10ft., white, Breeder: (1966), USDA Hardiness Zone 3, Michigan Bloom Month 7-9, In Garden Bed S4 for 5.3 YEARS (Lowe). Planted in 2013.

Hydrangea paniculata 'Tardiva' was introduced by Haworth-Booth from Chenaulfs nursery, and given an Award of Merit by the RHS in 1966. It is a "Big Box" item and one of the most popular Panicle hydrangeas in the US. It is a vigorous, upright deciduous shrub (or small tree) which grows 8-12' tall. Flowers are white, lightly tinged with pink/cream with age. Flowers on new wood and prunning should be done prior to new growth. 'Tardiva' is similar to H. Paniculata 'Floribunda'.

Hurst, TX (Zone 8a)
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luis_pr
Oct 3, 2018 6:15 PM CST
I like that Tardiva blooms late. A picture in a magazine once displayed some Tardivas blooming white besides some other paniculata whose blooms were brown by then. And the two types of shrubs looked just fine beside each other! I could not find out the name of the other paniculata but I assume Quickfire or Little QF. Chantilly Lace also blooms late like Tardiva... in case you are interested.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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pirl
Oct 3, 2018 7:46 PM CST
Tardiva doesn't demand much and looks good longer than any other hydrangea I have. This one is about 20 years old.


Hurst, TX (Zone 8a)
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luis_pr
Oct 4, 2018 11:05 AM CST
20 years?!? Wow, when does it begin to open blooms for you and how big is it now?
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
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pirl
Oct 4, 2018 6:16 PM CST
As of June 30th (2011) it hadn't bloomed. The earliest bloom in photos was 7/8/10.
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It was purchased long before I got a digital camera in 2005.

It's BIG. I'll try to remember to take a photo of it tomorrow, Luis.

Found this photo of asters with Tardiva to the right. Taken 11/05/16 and you can see it's taller than the shed.

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Hurst, TX (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Region: Texas
luis_pr
Oct 4, 2018 9:38 PM CST
Wait!!! Those are asters!?!?!? How tall are they! They did not get that tall here for me (although I ended replacing them for unrelated reasons). Wow!
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
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pirl
Oct 5, 2018 9:24 AM CST
Yes, they are New England asters. I bought them in a small pot but they didn't do much so I changed locations and the second time they went bonkers so I planted them on the top of a sod hill (from stripping the plot to make a vegetable garden back in '92) and the asters went wild - as you can see.

Here's "Aster Hill" before it begins to grow tall. The brick walk had to be expanded for the (then) newest riding mower so you can see how much I had to remove.

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Hurst, TX (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Region: Texas
luis_pr
Oct 6, 2018 4:04 PM CST
Keep me posted on the Tardiva color progression if you guys do not mind. Since all paniculatas currently introduced tend to go for magenta or dark pink colors, my brain simply assumed that Tardiva also would produce dark pink tones when it ages but in y'alls pictures, it seems to have a very light shade of pink instead so far.
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
pirl
Oct 6, 2018 5:18 PM CST
Will do. I'll try to take photos when I see changes.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
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pirl
Oct 11, 2018 2:33 PM CST
@Luis_pr Just for you, Luis. Photos taken today.
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Hurst, TX (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Region: Texas
luis_pr
Oct 12, 2018 3:23 AM CST
Ah, thanks Arlene... starting to turn pink!!! And a tad lighter pink than the pictures that Frank posted above in Michigan.

How pink are your blooms doing Frank?
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Oct 12, 2018 6:05 AM CST
The color of mine seems about the same, I will get a photo today.
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Oct 12, 2018 3:19 PM CST
A photo from today...

Am I expecting dark pink?

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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
pirl
Oct 12, 2018 3:35 PM CST
That's precisely what you should expect. Great photo.
Hurst, TX (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Region: Texas
luis_pr
Oct 12, 2018 3:36 PM CST
No, I would not expect very dark pinks, although light pinks is what others have told me about Tardiva (I do not grow it or many paniculatas as they do poorly here).
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
pirl
Oct 12, 2018 3:37 PM CST
Any pink color far surpasses the ugly browns in November.
Hurst, TX (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Region: Texas
luis_pr
Oct 12, 2018 3:46 PM CST
Hee, hee, hee. I got a few oakleaf hydrangeas so their gorgeous fall foliage would hide some of the mophead/paniculata browns. But that did not work as well as I had hoped and I end up deadheading blooms.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Dahlias Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
pirl
Oct 12, 2018 4:55 PM CST
Deadheading the Tardiva is only possible with a ladder. I'm sure my doctor wouldn't approve!

Here it is as of 11/04/15:

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Hurst, TX (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Region: Texas
luis_pr
Oct 12, 2018 8:43 PM CST
Wow, reminds me of my Chinese Pistache Tree now. It is full of seeds at the ends of branches. The ends now fall down like acorns do. Have to clean the area underneath regularly.
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