Roses forum: Has your taste in roses changed?

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Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Oct 3, 2018 5:09 PM CST
An artist friend visited me over the weekend and we ended up discussing how people's colour preferences change with age. He said that gardening is a form of art and that gardeners go through phases where their choices in flower colour and form change, just like when artists go through a blue or red period.

I have always detested orange, red, and yellow flowers and my gardens have always been purple, pink, and white with the odd blue or cream as well. I looked around my garden with new eyes and realised I had planted creamy yellow and salmon shades of tulips and roses - basically yellow and orange but not as in your face.

He told me that women over 50 tend to gravitate towards purple, mauve, and aqua in their choice of clothing. I was wearing a mauve cardigan but it was a gift so I didn't choose the colour, but I did choose to wear it. I tend to choose greys and greens but many of my friends are starting to wear pinks and mauves as well as aqua. I thought, "OMG, I'm an old lady who should smell of Avon perfume and mothballs! I'm going to end up with 39 cats!"

My gardening choices have changed over the years when it comes to colour and I now grow flowers that only 10 years ago I would have never wanted in my garden. I used to detest single and semi-double roses but now I can't get enough of them. I read on this forum of people getting rid of roses from their gardens and within a few years wondering why they did so because they now really want it again.

Has your taste in roses changed over the years? Do you find yourself drawn to different colours now than the ones you loved 20 years ago?
Name: Bonnie
Texas
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RosesnTx
Oct 3, 2018 6:19 PM CST
Great topic! Yes mine have definitely changed over the years and since I'm also over ahem 50 I am going to pay more attention to see if my color choices in clothing have changed. I have always loved yellow in my garden and will always have something yellow growing but I haven't always loved pink and I have found myself gravitating more towards pinks as I have grown older. I used to grow only HT's until I discovered OGR's and they tend to be my favorite now. I have also become more apt to grow what grows best in my garden as opposed to trying new things so instead of having lots of different varieties I now grow more of the same types plants that I know will tolerate my summers. I don't think I've lost my sense of adventure in the garden maybe just becoming a little wiser Smiling
I have also discovered that I prefer the more bold colors to the more soft colors, I still like the softer colors but just more drawn to the bolder colored roses than I used to be.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 3, 2018 6:46 PM CST
I love this topic! Can't wait to read what others say about this. I'm 55 and I haven't noticed a change in my rose preferences...not in color or shape. I may be a little more tolerant to roses that open more...like Scepter'd Isle...but I really love hybrid teas (as always) with lots of color. I love wearing red/blue primary colors...I don't think that will change either. Smiling
Carol
Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Oct 3, 2018 9:19 PM CST
How about over the months? I started rose gardening earlier this summer with zero clues about gardening let alone growing roses. I was captivated by English roses, and I started my newfound hobby with David Austin roses. Over time, my taste evolved from English roses to Hybrid Tea and Floribundas. When it comes to color, I am all over the place, because I pay attention to color contrast aesthetic when planting/placing roses. More colorful the better. I also started paying attention to roses the growth characteristic when choosing roses for containers. Master rosarians here passed on invaluable advice that the bottom growth should be able to support the top growth (i.e.) roses that grow more than 4 ft tall won't fair well in a container.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Oct 3, 2018 9:28 PM CST

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I've become jaded, I think. I'm much less likely to buy roses with solid-colored blooms, preferring them to be at least two colors. I'm especially fond of blends that combine yellow with pink and blooms that are red with a silver or gold reverse. I'm also more interested in blooms with less conventional shapes. I seek out ruffled or scalloped petals and blooms that resemble other plants, such as Moore's roses with a dahlia-like arrangement of petals, the clematis-like petals of The Imposter or the appleblossom-like blooms of The Charlatan.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 3, 2018 11:42 PM CST
Zuzu - do you grow Memorial Day? It has lovely scallopy edges


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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Oct 3, 2018 11:47 PM CST

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That's beautiful, Carol. I don't grow that one, but I should, I guess. Smiling
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Mustbnuts
Oct 4, 2018 2:20 AM CST
Great question. I tend to have pinks, plum colored, blues and whites in my garden. Orange is probably my least favorite color and I tend to stay away from yellows and orange-reds. Not necessarily because I don't like them but because those colors always look "hot" to me. Given the temps of my garden during the summer, I want it to look cool not hot.

I tend to shy away from the traditional hybrid tea rose shape. I like a more open shape, a more unusual shape, especially to the petals, etc., on a rose. I tend to favor striped and/or blotched roses as well. While I like a "full" rose, I also love singles and semi-doubles. Just wish I had double the space and budget I have for my garden.

Just read that in 2022, we will be restricted with water usage to something like 55 gallons per person a day and by 2030 to just 50 gallons a day. At that point, I may not have any roses and just concentrate on ornamental grasses and mini crape myrtles for color. Sigh.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 4, 2018 10:44 AM CST
Thanks, Zuzu ... and it has a wonderful fragrance!!!

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Mustbnuts - oh say it isn't so. Sad

Carol
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin (Zone 8a)
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hampartsum
Oct 6, 2018 7:25 AM CST
I was wondering how to address this topic.I really love roses. Each one of them and every one of them. Each has a uniqueness to it that can make it special. They are not simply a decorative component in my gardens. Roses are so versatile that its very difficult to point which are my favourites. Some call my name because of the individual bloom. Others , because of fragrance. Others ( climbers...large climbers ) because they provide massive high colour. Some can be grown as standards tree roses. Others are miniature pot roses...so there it goes. I do have a sense of taste, however so not everything can grow anywhere. I tend to study what could grow where next to which. All colours are very valuable to me. None are out of place as such. I may have placed the bush in the wrong place, colourwise, which means that it will need to be moved around. I recognize that I have ample space so that that doesn't act as a restraint in my choice. As years go by my taste "improves" I catch nuances that had gone unnoticed to me. Meanwhile the gardens mature...so I become familiar with companion plants that can be grown along with my roses. That provides the needed balance of colour. ( i.e tall light blue delphiniums behind fiery orange roses like Summer Song). I like to experiment with differing palettes so any colour is valuable. But appart from colour, bloom form and texture, plus bush growth are equally important so the final composition of the various elements takes many years to achieve what my taste calls for. So perhaps rather than adhering to the concept that my taste changed over the course of more than three decades, what it did happen that it became gradually much more refined as I kept learning and growing a bewildering diversity of roses.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 6, 2018 9:33 AM CST
I love the image of delphiniums agains orange roses... Lovey dubby
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Oct 6, 2018 2:33 PM CST
I hope you post a lot of photos this summer, Arturo. I really want to see the combination of plants that you put together. We have the same quality of light and the things that work for you should work for me.

The roses I have planted this year are mostly pale coloured Austins and I think the photos on the labels are from UK plants so the colours will look very different in my UV saturated garden. I will have to wait to see whether I have them in the right order and combination. I have already had to move two camellias that finally flowered this year but their colour/chroma/hue just did not fit in. I don't want to be looking out at the garden for the rest of my life and having one plant that spoils the view, so I want to get the framework plants right. The infill plants are no problem to change and in fact I think of them like furniture that can be changed around for a fresh look. Lola.
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin (Zone 8a)
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hampartsum
Oct 6, 2018 3:51 PM CST
Yes, @LolaTasmania, I'll try to post pics this summer. However my color combinations will take quite a few years to mature before they actually acquire the quality that I'm searching for. As an example around my " difficult" fiery oranges, first my recently arrived DA roses will spend potted this first season. I want them to grow a healthy large root mass before going out into their final position. I still can place them in their presumptive position just to see how they could look when in bloom and take a few pics to share... Smiling I would have to do the same with my delphs. These I grow in ample quantities from seed, but again until they reach their full potential they have to be grown placed in their final position for at least three years. As I keep visualizing the orange rose bed, I'm also thinking in twining a few clematis too; perhaps a deep dark purple. I aggree with you about our peculiar light conditions. We too have very high UV index as well. Perhaps that is the reason why I search for very bold colours. Otherwise the light intensity just burns colours and there is little colour contrast. Imo, because of the sheer size of available land and surrounding landscape, my beds have to shout out " here I AM!!" otherwise they just go unnoticed and hidden in the surrounding vegetation. I also think that the subdued colours of an English countryside is almost possible only there; years ago with my late wife we studied Turner's skys in his paintings: it was obvious to us, that he could have never painted that here! However I still haven't given up. I'm trying to create pockets of intimate soft corners. They have to be like small closets ( or niches) in my larger rooms; my gardens are placed in rooms surrounded by evergreen conifers that frame up each garden.
I have a work area with a pot ghetto where everything spends time before its laid out into their final beds. This is what allows me to play with colour and shape combinations. I'm a bit of the playful sort so ....difficult challenges with hot colours really call my name! Big Grin
I spotted my first rose bloom this morning, peeping behind a bunch of new green leaves. It belongs to a group that received a rescue treatment inside one of our cool grenhouses. My outside bushes are just barely leafing out. We had 2 " of snow three days ago! I do expect coldish weather until mid november still.
Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Kristinelego
Oct 7, 2018 8:24 AM CST
I don't think my tastes have changed. I still love rich saturated colors. Still don't like washed out or muddy colors. This is the first year that I have seen the beauty of Distant Drums and Hot Cocoa.
My favorites are still those Austin purpley reds.
I will always use yellow because of the way it lights up a dark corner.
This is the year of whites. Desdamona, Bolero and Earth Angel.
Love the fun bi colors and strippys.
And I am old and will never wear mauve
I am more of a lime green girl. Hurray!
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You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite
Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Kristinelego
Oct 7, 2018 10:23 AM CST

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Sunset Dreams, still going to town
You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 7, 2018 11:30 AM CST
Hampartsmum - I think that sounds amazing! Rooms of plants divided by conifers! I'd love to see pictures if you have any! I love your thoughts about colors, and it sounds like you've done a great job!! Hurray! We had 17" of snow last week, and we're expecting more snow this week. Edmonton sent up snow trucks/graders to come help us with the snow clearing. It was a lot of snow over 2 days.

Kristine - I'm wearing lime green today!! I love that color! Thumbs up What rose is that? It's fabulous...is it the same rose as your avatar is? Sunset Dreams looks like it has a zillion petals!!
Carol

Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
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Kristinelego
Oct 7, 2018 12:58 PM CST
Carol. That is Sunset Dreams
The blooms never blow, last forever on the bush. Ill have to check on the fragrance
You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 7, 2018 3:05 PM CST
Ooooh!!! I've never heard of Sunset Dreams before! Do you mean that that's the same bloom? I thought those were from 2 separate rose varieties! How cool is that!! Thanks for checking on the fragrance for me.
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Oct 7, 2018 4:44 PM CST
Nope. Still like what I always liked.

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