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Gina1960
Oct 7, 2018 6:00 PM CST
...that I am hoping someone with more vast identification skills can help me recall what they are. Tags long gone. All minis. Photos 2 and 3 are the same plant as it wraps around the mount.
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Name: lindsey
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sugarcane
Oct 7, 2018 6:22 PM CST
photo 2 & 3 Den. aggregatum /lindeyi ????
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BigBill
Oct 8, 2018 4:13 AM CST
You may be on to something Lindsey. I do agree that #3 looks like it could be Dendrobium Lindleyi/aggregatum. In fact, it may even be the smaller species jenkinsii.
But Gina, identifying unknown plants from bulbs and leaves is nearly impossible! You got lucky because one species in particular has destinctive enough growth that we could venture an opinion.
They could benefit with a bit more water as the middle plant looks more distressed then the other 2. It should be remounted with a little long fibred sphagnum moss behind it.
The same can be said for #1. It is naked essentially on a tree fern slab. A little pad of moss would help it tremendously. It looks like a small Oncidium, perhaps flexuosum, but it could be Maxillaria variabilis. It is just way too generic at this stage. But it is not a Dendrobium.
Have they ever bloomed for you? If so, an image of the flower would be a big help!
It also appears that in photo 3, there is a second plant on that mount. Mixed in among the broader, rounder leaves are some longer, lanceolate leaves, one lower right and 4-5 upper left.
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Gina1960
Oct 8, 2018 5:35 AM CST
Thank you for your advice. These plants are very very old. They have been unfortunately neglected. I will look back through my photographs and see what blooms I might find and post them. I am grateful you are trying to help me and will follow your advice to remount. These orchids came from either Andy's orchids on a stick or Tropiflora many years ago, perhaps 10? I water daily, they seem to dry out quickly. Let me look for pictures...I have several NOIDS that you might recognize if they have blooms on them
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Oct 8, 2018 5:55 AM CST
We are all happy to help with any orchid issue.
When mature orchids are stressed they tend to produce smaller and smaller growths. They produce multiple new leads in an attempt to survive. Once their health improves they can often improve enough to bloom in a couple of years.
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Gina1960
Oct 8, 2018 6:01 AM CST
These are photos of I have of some minis in bloom I don't think any of them are these though except maybe the last one. But they are NOIDS. A lot of my older photos did not transfer over to this computer when I bought it and I don't have them all anymore



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BigBill
Oct 8, 2018 6:17 AM CST
Very nice! We will be able to get these identified for you as they all appear on first glance to be species. Species are much easier to identify.
Be patient, when everyone gets a chance to log on, you'll get your ID's.

By the way, those are gorgeous plants!! Thumbs up Hurray!
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Oct 8, 2018 6:27 AM CST
Gina, I think that the last image/plant is Dendrobium lichenastrum. It seems to have those succulent leaves and the flower size and color looks to be correct!
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Oct 8, 2018 7:16 AM CST

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The first one in your second group is surely Dinema polybulbon.
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Oct 8, 2018 8:19 AM CST
I knew that looked familiar! D'Oh!
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Ursula
Oct 8, 2018 8:33 AM CST

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Bill, this one is forever imprinted into my head for a good reason! Smiling You might know this gentleman Bill Hutchinson/Larch Hill.
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BigBill
Oct 8, 2018 8:46 AM CST
He looks familiar too. I may have met him in Jersey years ago. He is a Jersey guy, right?
I spoke at North Jersey OS, Ramapo OS and Deep Cut OS meetings. In fact, Deep Cut was my favorite show every year! I miss my old buddy Dennis Dayan, past President and fellow judge.
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sugarcane
Oct 8, 2018 9:12 AM CST
Just a note about the tree fern mount. If you hang it horizontally ( like a raft, it will hold more water longer than if you hang it up and down.
Is the second photo a bulbophyllum?
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Oct 8, 2018 10:19 AM CST
The 3rd one might Dendrobium toressae. It has very small bulbs and leaves, singular flowers and it grows in a dense mat close to the mount.
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Ted5310
Oct 8, 2018 1:16 PM CST
They do look like Andy's. You can send him the pics and he will ID for you. I have done it before.
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Oct 8, 2018 1:40 PM CST

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Lindsey, will it hold more water mounted horizontally? I don't know, but I could imagine, it might depend on the shape and kind of mount? This "thing" here was one happy camper!
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Gina1960
Oct 8, 2018 5:27 PM CST
Thank you all so much!!!! I was in the greenhouse today, taking your advice to remount and replenish moss on the orchids and got carried away, it seemed everywhere I looked there was a mounted plant that needed attention! Four house later, I came out for lunch, turned on the TV and saw that Tropical Storm Michael is a hurricane now and predicted to pass fairly close to us here. It supposed to start raining tomorrow, we may get tropical storm force winds here if it stays on its current track. Ugh. We just got fixed up from Irma a year ago. Had to abandon orchids and go get water and gas for the generator just in case. And oh, DOG FOOD for my babies. I will look these up and make new tags!!!! Thank you again!!
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Oct 8, 2018 5:31 PM CST

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Hopefully "Michael" will be kind to you and everyone else in his path!
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Gina1960
Oct 8, 2018 6:16 PM CST
sugarcane said:Just a note about the tree fern mount. If you hang it horizontally ( like a raft, it will hold more water longer than if you hang it up and down.
Is the second photo a bulbophyllum?


I don't think so but its possible. I thought I recalled that they were all Dendrobiums but of course my memory may be flawed. I have a feeling I will get blooms....I have been fertilizing regularly again and watering daily. Maybe when the temps drop.
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Oct 8, 2018 7:10 PM CST
You are very welcome! So glad we could help.
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