Roses forum: blue rose - the start

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Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 11, 2018 7:37 PM CST
I saw this article about a blue rose, and I thought...wow, that's pretty! It's not the bright delplhinium blue one would think...but a soft blue that would fit into the garden. It's the start...but it looks like a really good start. I think it could be beautiful!!! What are your thoughts?

https://phys.org/news/2018-10-...

Carol
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Oct 11, 2018 9:29 PM CST
Hmmmmm, I don't know......guess I would need to wait and see about this one.
Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Oct 11, 2018 10:54 PM CST
Interesting, but I would also wait to see a detailed result on this one. Perhaps more images supporting the experiment would be helpful.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 12, 2018 12:26 AM CST
Yes, very true...there are a lot of factors to be weighed. But I'm optimistic, because the color seems more fitting for a rose than a bright delphinium blue.
Carol
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
Oct 12, 2018 1:54 AM CST
They have been working on engineering a blue rose for decades.

The problem with most of these kinds of experiments is that they never seem to take into consideration all of the variables that can impact a rose.

However, this is common with scientists. Roses don't know the rules, so they keep changing them.

Is the cultivar they are using in their experiment a rose with thick or thin petal substance. Is the environment they are growing their new roses humid or arid or somewhere in between ? Are they growing the rose in the ground where ph would have an impact or in containers and, if they are growing the rose in containers, what kind of soil mix are they using and what size container ? What are they feeding the rose to provide nutrients ? If that changed, would they have the same results ? What is the ambient temperature in the growing evironment ? The list of variables goes on and on.

Of course, there are several I haven't mentioned and there are certainly some I don't even know about.

All I can say is that, "I wish them luck".

Without striving for a color break for a blue rose, it takes about 20 years to test a rose and bring it to market.
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bart2018
Oct 12, 2018 2:30 AM CST
The picture I saw showed a white rose with a tiny bluish-grey streak on the underside of a petal. Not impressive...
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Oct 12, 2018 12:20 PM CST
I agree with Bart -- I'm not terribly impressed.

And, I've been hearing these "Great Breakthrough" stories for a long, long time now, and nothing much has happened.

Now, THIS is growing in my yard, and it does turn about as blue-ISH as I've seen to date.
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Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 12, 2018 1:56 PM CST
I know they've been tyring to get a blue rose for decades...but there IS blue there! nodding I can't wait to see how this goes. I know there's a long wait.

Jeri - That is a lovely rose!! It looks like there's striping there. Cool.
Carol
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Oct 12, 2018 2:55 PM CST
Do we really need a blue rose?
Porkpal
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Oct 12, 2018 5:06 PM CST
Porkpal -- Good point.

I don't. I can get my "blue" in other forms.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Oct 12, 2018 5:16 PM CST
Well....at one time we didn't have yellow roses (except in the Middle East)....now from the yellow we have oranges too. I, for one, would be disappointed if we didn't have yellow or orange roses. Wait and see...you never know.
Carol

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