Daylilies forum: Shipping to Europe

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Name: Ronny
Belgium (Zone 8a)
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Ronny07
Oct 19, 2018 2:03 PM CST
Does anyone know which nurseries can still ship daylilies to Europe ?
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Oct 19, 2018 2:46 PM CST
I was going to say Rich Howard of CT Daylilies but according to his website he can no longer do so:

http://www.ctdaylily.com/
Name: Ronny
Belgium (Zone 8a)
Cat Lover Region: Europe Region: Belgium Daylilies
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Ronny07
Oct 19, 2018 3:35 PM CST
I have heard of that, the roads to import daylilies are becoming narrower ....
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Oct 19, 2018 4:20 PM CST
Rich had a kind of phytosanitary exemption from the Xylella restrictions so was able to ship to Europe even when most others could not, but no more it seems.

FrankMosher
Oct 19, 2018 5:07 PM CST
Sue, you nailed it!! The phytosanitary license! Whether shipping plants from Europe to North America or visa versa, either the grower has to apply for same from the Country he wants to ship to, and then that cost (not cheap) is passed onto the customer. Ordinarily, there is a good chance that one can "get away" with mailing a single "bulb" to a friend in another Country, as long as there is no visible soil with it. I don't want to tell you the many times I have "snuk" in cuttings from southern climes, worrying about the "sniffer" dogs upon landing back in Canada! Scary! LOL. AND, never was I able to "start" any of them, except for seeds. Incidentally, at an airport in Canada a few years ago, I watched a lady disembark and go through CBS with a potted palm tree in her hands, and they let her though unchallenged! Like, how does that work? I would have brought back a bougainvillea (instead of slips) if I thought I could have accomplished that! Really weird on both sides of the border in North America let alone the rest of the World. I had to eat an apple that was in my hand luggage or throw it in the garbage, last time I entered the US! Imagine!! Totally out of control!! Cheers!
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Oct 19, 2018 5:45 PM CST
Frank, imports from the USA (not sure if it's all of North America) to Europe were banned because daylilies can be infected with the bacterium Xylella fastidiosa which can cause serious agricultural losses in other plants. So it's not just a straightforward phyto cert issue in this case.

FrankMosher
Oct 20, 2018 9:43 AM CST
Sue, I think we are on the same page here. Exactly as you said, although I have failed to come up with a reference which specifically denotes "Daylilies"? The EU has placed serious importation bans throughout their jurisdiction, which as you know, (covers a huge chunk of Europe) on the virtual importation of any plants from "The Americas" read "southern US", and I actually agree with them!!!! I know for certain, that there is little or no check on growing virus-free AND bacterium-free rose production stock, particularly in Texas, and I have posted on this previously, and probably contributed to my being kicked off the Rose Forum!! In this issue, the species, particularly named as being in danger are olive, and fruit trees. Doesn't matter! They, the EU have made the decree, and that is it! However, if a North American grower had applied for a phytosanitary license to ship to the EU, it would have been turned down, so yes, it is not just a matter of applying! You are corredt! Cheers!
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Oct 20, 2018 11:12 AM CST
"although I have failed to come up with a reference which specifically denotes "Daylilies"

Try a Google search using the keywords xylella hemerocallis rather than daylilies. Here's one result, there are more recent ones but this is the clearest layout:

https://www.hortweek.com/xylel...
Name: Ronny
Belgium (Zone 8a)
Cat Lover Region: Europe Region: Belgium Daylilies
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Ronny07
Oct 20, 2018 3:08 PM CST
On the website of James Gossard I read that they ship internationally,
I have already sent him an e-mail about this, but so far I have not received an answer yet.

FrankMosher
Oct 30, 2018 10:11 AM CST
Sue, can't even get on your reference site without buying a subscription. As I believe you have plenty experience in these matters, I will assume that what you have said is true. Cheers!
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Oct 30, 2018 11:17 AM CST
FrankMosher said:Sue, can't even get on your reference site without buying a subscription. As I believe you have plenty experience in these matters, I will assume that what you have said is true. Cheers!


Try this one. I don't know why the other one switched to needing a log-in, it didn't when I tested it:

https://www.nurserymag.com/art...
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Oct 31, 2018 12:02 PM CST
@Sooby
It seems that going directly to the Hortweek website using https://www.hortweek.com/xylel... causes the sign-in/register request.

However, doing a Google search and then clicking on the Google hit does not seem to have the same requirement https://www.google.com/url?sa=...

Just close the pop-up window by clicking on the x in the upper right hand corner of the pop-up window.
Maurice
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Nov 1, 2018 12:23 AM CST
Don't know if this helps anyone, but Floyd Cove Nursery says the following regarding international shipping:

International Orders:
We ship worldwide, please contact for the latest list of countries we are able to ship to. Our minimum order for international customers is $800.00 USD, plus $95.00 for handling and Phytosanitary certificate. We have had to increase our handling charges due to the additional paperwork required to prepare shipments. To offset this cost we will try to provide an additional fan or bonus plant with your international order. We do not dig international orders that contain only General Listing plants, we offer these as a courtesy in addition to our own introductions. Orders must include at least 25% new introductions to be processed – Thank You.
Actual Shipping costs are charged separately, at time of shipping. We ship internationally via USPS Express Post or DHL or UPS Worldwide. Please contact us to discuss your requirements.

http://www.distinctly.on.ca/fl...

Betty
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Name: Ronny
Belgium (Zone 8a)
Cat Lover Region: Europe Region: Belgium Daylilies
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Ronny07
Nov 1, 2018 7:48 AM CST
@Betja

Hi Betty,

In the beginning of this year I sent an email to Karen Pierce asking if they could ship plants to Belgium.
Karen sent me a friendly message with the announcement that they could not send anything to the countries of the E.U. (including Belgium)
I recently read that there are certain aeras in the U.S.A. where Xylella Fastidiosa does not occur.
See my link here:
https://ec.europa.eu/food/plan...
Could it be that daylily nurseries that are located in these areas are allowed to ship to Europe?
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Region: United States of America Roses
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Betja
Nov 1, 2018 9:05 AM CST
Hi Ronny!

Ah, well -- I should have known that you would have already checked out Floyd Cove. And unfortunately, Siskiyou County is at the northern tip of California with no larger population centers around. So sorry I couldn't be more helpful... Can you at least have seeds mailed to you? The Lily Auction has lots available and I believe our own James (JWWC) ships internationally. Just a thought...

Betty
Name: James
California (Zone 8b)
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JamesT
Nov 1, 2018 10:09 AM CST
If you're going to have a quarantine, you have to control and enforce it. Apparently, the EU realized, correctly, that a rampantly-traded and widely-distributed plant such as hemerocallis would cause plant pathogens to be spread far and wide throughout its range, and quickly.

If someone were to set up a daylily nursery in a remote 'unsullied" place like Siskiyou County, it would soon acquire the same pathogens as the places the stock plants came from.

I'm surprised CT Daylily was able to get any sort of exemption at all.
Name: Tara
Cedar Rapids, Iowa (Zone 5a)
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IAgrl
Nov 1, 2018 12:18 PM CST
Yes so I'm super curious about the seed thing too... I get not shipping the daylilies due to spread of disease. But seeds wouldn't be at risk of that right? There is a similar line of conversation about shipping seeds to AU.... if it's allowed or not. They don't want to introduce invasive species due to a unique ecosystem, but daylilies aren't invasive and they do allow like 6 different named cultivars to be imported. Shrug!

I'm learning so much! Thank You!
Name: Ronny
Belgium (Zone 8a)
Cat Lover Region: Europe Region: Belgium Daylilies
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Ronny07
Nov 1, 2018 4:10 PM CST
@Betja

Betty, I know that they sell a lot of seeds at the Lilly Auction, but I'm not so fond of that.
It is always a bit of a lottery ......
But everyone will have their own idea about this, I can imagine that it must be exciting to see what the first flowers look like.
Name: Ronny
Belgium (Zone 8a)
Cat Lover Region: Europe Region: Belgium Daylilies
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Ronny07
Nov 1, 2018 4:31 PM CST
@JamesT


I fear that you are right about your theory about a nursery in a place that is free of Xylella Fastidiosa.
When you are going to stock plants that come from all over the U.S.A. The chances are very high that one of these plants carries the bacterium with them and also infects the whole stock or a part of it.
Scientists have now found out that the bacterium does not thrive in a northern climate, cold and moisture would have a negative influence on the Xylella bacteria.
Name: Ronny
Belgium (Zone 8a)
Cat Lover Region: Europe Region: Belgium Daylilies
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Ronny07
Nov 1, 2018 4:42 PM CST
@IAgrl


Tara,

Daylily seeds can never be infected with Xylella Fastidiosa, the shipment to Europe is allowed.
I can not say anything how the rules are about sending seeds to Australia.

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