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Name: Jo Ann Gentle Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)              ge1836 Dec 16, 2013 11:12 AM CST |
| I know Pirl has luck with Poison Ivey killer but I used it and realized it kills everything growing in the area. Roundup is selective and just kills the plant thats sprayed. I used WK on a campanula that had inveded an area where I had 3 different lilies growing. I used the WK in early April before bulbs emerged. That garden looks like a waste hazard dump and I am buying lilies for that spot. I also half killed a evergreen trying to eleminate a weedy area under it.Garlic Oregano died and so has half the tree. I guess I am just saying be careful,dilute properly. |
Name: Arlene Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)          pirl Dec 16, 2013 11:46 AM CST |
| Any spray that hits good plants will kill the good plants as well. Any breeze can spread Round Up as well as any other product that kills. ALWAYS protect ALL good plants around the one you want to kill, regardless of which product you use. Here I protected all surrounding plants and managed to kill only the dreaded Houttuynia, not even touching any other nearby plant.  |
Name: Rick R. Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4        Leftwood Dec 16, 2013 7:21 PM CST |
| Don't know why the triclopyr in Poison Ivy Killer would kill everything. Triclopyr is in the Chickweed and Clover control that kills weeds in lawns and does not kill the lawn. I've used the Poison Ivy killer on my lawn (lot cheaper) and it killed the weeds and not the lawn. It was just an experimental trial, and I wouldn't recommend it though. I believe I detected some stress in the lawn grass. Evergreens are particularly susceptible to triclopyr, as you discovered, Jo Ann. Never heard of Garlic oregano. Can't seem to find anything about it. What is it? When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates |
Name: Jo Ann Gentle Pittsford NY (Zone 6a) ge1836 Dec 17, 2013 3:34 AM CST |
| I didnt measure carefully when diluting the WK concentrate.Serves me right. Rick: You never heard of Garlic Oregano because I misspoke. Its Garlic Mustard and its one of the most invasive weeds I have here. Its a biennial .It is also a delicacy as a wild leaf to enhance pastas and salads. Weeding it makes me want a pizza. http://www.plantoeat.com/blog/... The swath of this weed growing wild in a wooded area .Image ( second row far right ) looks like my back hill. http://www.oardc.ohio-state.ed... |
Name: Zhirair Basmajyan Vanadzor, ARMENIA Never say never  Boyed Dec 17, 2013 5:37 AM CST |
| I never spray Round Up for safety porposes. I just smear it with the brush on the leaves of infected plant. As a rule Rond Up is recommended to mix with water (1 part of round up + 2 parts of water). I use it directly without mixing for stronger concentration. Lorn, indeed, it is very convenient to use for the plants which are planted densely to avoid mechanical infecting of neighboring plants when removing. Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast http://vintagetulips.narod.ru/ |
Name: Rick R. Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4 Leftwood Apr 8, 2014 9:28 PM CST |
| Oh this is interesting.... From Plant Disease, May 2012, a magazine published by the American Phytopathological Society: http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/... Note page 601, Table 1: Cucumber mosaic virus and Tulip Breaking virus are seed transmissible. One of my favorite T-shirts:  When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates |
Name: Rick R. Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4 Leftwood Apr 8, 2014 9:58 PM CST |
| More general info, interesting at least to some.... http://ucanr.org/sites/ucnfa/f... When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates |
Name: Jo Ann Gentle Pittsford NY (Zone 6a) ge1836 Apr 9, 2014 2:10 AM CST |
| Thanks for the links.I'll get back to them. I am eager to see if the Robinas show up with the same streaking this season. If not I will just chalk it up to heat. |
Name: Anthony Weeding Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b) idont havemuch-but ihave everything       gwhizz Apr 9, 2014 4:11 AM CST |
I had 'Kissproof' do the same thing . Jo Ann.. I gave it a chance.. Robina's are renowned for streaking..Im not one for taking chances , with plants , but I think.. Im behind the 8 ball with this one!  lily freaks are not geeks! |
Name: Jo Ann Gentle Pittsford NY (Zone 6a) ge1836 Apr 9, 2014 4:13 AM CST |
| I just LOVE that lily.It broke my heart to think It might be lost,so I gave it a second season. |
Name: Anthony Weeding Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b) idont havemuch-but ihave everything gwhizz Apr 9, 2014 4:41 AM CST |
Let's be optomists!  lily freaks are not geeks! |
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn) S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)     Roosterlorn Apr 9, 2014 5:47 AM CST |
| My Robina does the same thing, Jo Ann. I'm starting to think that many large OT pinks have a tendency to do that occasionally. |
Name: Jo Ann Gentle Pittsford NY (Zone 6a) ge1836 Apr 9, 2014 5:58 AM CST |
| Happy to hear Lorn. |
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn) S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b) Roosterlorn Apr 9, 2014 6:09 AM CST |
| Rick, thanks for posting the links. I am skeptical about the authenticity of viral transmission of TBV by seed. I'd have to research that statement and find more proof before I accept that as factual. Although, maybe, it could be that the virus resides as a coating on shell of the seed. Makes a person wonder how many new viroids will evolve and what their impact will be. Did you catch the note about TMV being able to live on DEAD leaves for 10 years? |
Name: Connie Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)       |
| I removed some LOs yesterday. Last year one of them looked iffy this year the foliage is looking all streaked. Off to the garbage dump for them. A nearby Scheherazade has foliage looking deformed. I'll probably dump it too. I got the LOs at a local box store... |
Name: Evan Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)         |
This is the new growth of what I believe is OT Timezone which did beautifully last year. Is this virused?  Photo from last summer  Evan |
Name: Rick R. Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4 Leftwood May 9, 2014 6:46 PM CST |
| Of course there are many many viruses that affect lilies, and each can have major or slight differences in their symptoms, but (at least for me) I don't see any indications of virus infection on the main stem or the flowers. If I am interpreting the more blurry stem bulblet sprouts' symptoms correctly, they look to be cold damaged. I assume they came up earlier than the main sprout? (It's normal for the stem bulblets to emerge before the mother bulb.) I have similar symptoms on my two Lilium 'Karen North', and I initially wondered if they were virused, too. But they have quickly grown out of it (two non-consecutive years) after the cold subsided. The year in between, the temps were more normal and there were no symptoms. So I am betting it is not viral. 2012 - April 24th and April 29th   2014 - May 6th and May 9th   In 2014, my other Karen North came up later, escaped the cold and snow, and has not symptoms. When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates |
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn) S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b) Roosterlorn May 9, 2014 7:58 PM CST |
| Evan, I wouldn't panic either. I've seen similar in early spring, more so on anything Oriental than other divisions. It should grow out of it as the weather warms. It's good you made note of it though. Watch this plant for odd stem growth or irregular, twisted or blotched leaves as it grows more toward budding. If so then, post another picture for opinion. |
Name: Evan Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a) |
| I have several other OT and Oriental lilies in this same bed at various stages of growth. While some are dark red and others different shades of green, the colors on this one did cause some panic. It sent me here looking for posts on dealing with the soil lilies with a virus are growing in. Thanks for the information on cold damage. We continue to have nights in the 40's and it was only a few weeks ago that we had nights in the high 20's. I didn't notice if these stem bulblets sprouted earlier than the main stem, but you've answered an unasked question I had about a few other lilies. Lily marker, many small sprouts but no main stem. Evan |
Name: Jo Ann Gentle Pittsford NY (Zone 6a) ge1836 May 10, 2014 2:12 AM CST |
| Evan, thanks for your statement about bulblet leaves showing and emerging main stems. I was paniced when Renoires and Dimentions just came up leaves. I am beginning to see the main stems as of yesterday. Your referral to the cold we are having lets my nervous system off the hook. |
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