Daylilies forum: Should dimpling spare a seedling?

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Name: Dennis
SW Michigan (Zone 5a)
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Dennis616
Oct 23, 2018 5:37 PM CST
Culling seedlings is painful but necessary-- and the smaller the seedling beds the more necessary it is. So I of course have quite a few seedlings that must be culled to make room for new seedlings.

While reviewing photos of hapless seedlings destined for the compost pile, this one caught my eye. It has dimpling!
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A large portion of the petals have a bumpy texture which I believe is called dimpling.

I know I've seen photos of some dimpled daylilies before, but I really am not sure just how common or uncommon it is. Is it unique enough that this seedling should be spared? Very curious to hear comments on this-- a seedling's life hangs in the balance! Should I keep this seedling on the compost list, or should dimpling save the seedling?



Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Oct 23, 2018 6:40 PM CST
Dimpling should be spared Angel Angel Angel And henceforth that should be her name Thumbs up

Is it like seesucker, or crepe, or what?

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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Oct 23, 2018 7:11 PM CST
Dennis616
I don't think it is that rare of a feature, but if that characteristic is something that interests you and that you might incorporate into your hybridizing program I would say you might want to keep it. I am not yet to the point where I am faced with those decisions so easy for me to say either way. But when the time comes I will be looking for sculpted relief, but I want a lot more than the one attribute to be the determining factor. I am sure you do also, so what else makes you like this plant enough to want to keep it? If it has a few of the other features you are looking for then of course that makes it more likely to be a keeper.
Name: Tim
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Lyshack
Oct 23, 2018 7:33 PM CST
I agree with Larry that I think that crepe look is popular and if you like it, that seems like a pretty good one to have in your program. I don't think it's rare or anything. I want to say my Ice Carnival has that effect, several other nice examples have been posted recently in the "Sun Doesn't Set" thread.

I also agree with Mary that it's a really nice color. If it were a 1st or 2nd year daylily, I would definitely give it one more year because I'd like to see the blooms when they mature out of that spotting. I'm intrigued by those inconsistent white midribs, that add to the seersucker look Mary suggested.

You don't mention performance, but if you're getting like 2-3 blooms per scape, or the scapes can't hold the blooms up or something like that, those would be legit reasons for me to cull it even with the lovely bloom.

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Name: Vickie
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blue23rose
Oct 24, 2018 4:50 AM CST
I have heard the 'dimpling' called 'crepe' because the texture is like crepe paper, and some folks like it. I had 'Age of Miracles' and it did this quite a lot, but the petals did not have good substance and it did not hold its color well, so I don't have it anymore. I do like the crepe texture though.

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Here is 'Gold Crepe', another example of a crepe textured daylily:
https://www.daylilies.org/Dayl...

I love that color, Dennis, so if it were mine I would keep it at least another year or two to see how it performed. Like Tim said though, if it is not holding up the blooms, I don't think another year will make a difference and would not hesitate to cull it.


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Name: Pat Strong
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Pat236
Oct 24, 2018 5:33 AM CST
One of my favorite dimpled daylilies is Dimpled Dynamite. I love the color of your seedling, but as Tim said, how does it perform in other areas would be the determining factor for me.
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Name: Dennis
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Dennis616
Oct 24, 2018 6:00 AM CST
Mary, your immediate and strong declaration of the sdlg needing to be saved is persuasive! "Dimpling Should Be Spared" is an intriguing name worthy of consideration. I was thinking maybe 'Dimpled Darling' but that is already taken...

Everyone seems to love the color, and so do I. The color and the dimples are two good features, Larry. Combine that with a hybridizing goal of creating some great pinks and this one might be worthy of further observation. Like you say Tim, the plant and bloom performance will be major factors.

Noticing the inconsistent midribs is a great observation, Tim! It definitely contributes to the look. That is exactly the type of detail I am so afraid of missing. And I did somehow miss it—my eye for details needs improvement.

Was not familiar with "seersucker" term. "Crepe" I did hear before. But it is interesting to see this "type" of daylily as a new to me but as you say Vickie, it surely has a following.

I am convinced this 2nd-year seedling merits another year of observation!
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florange
Oct 27, 2018 9:12 AM CST
I like the dimples. However, I have a dayliliy from Nicole DeVito named Wavelength that has wrinkles and dimples. On a bad day it looks like the Grumpy Cat.

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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
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Oct 27, 2018 2:56 PM CST
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Frillylily
Jan 9, 2019 11:40 AM CST
I know this is old, but for some reason just seen it. I have had several dl that are creped/dimpled. I don't think it is rare so if it has other qualities that are not up to par, I'd cull it.

Personally, any dl that is dimpled gets sent to the compost here, I think they look wrinkled/shriveled and I don't like it. My word to describe those is 'frumpy'.

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