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Delray Beach, Florida
no1bubbe
Oct 29, 2018 9:49 AM CST
How do you care for a Pot Achung YoYo Little Goldfish. I live in So. Fl. Does it get early morning East sun? No sun. Watering habits. Is blooming right now. When do you fertilize it?. I won it in a raffle yesterday & it did not have any plant care instructions with it. Could not find anything online.
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BigBill
Oct 29, 2018 11:21 AM CST
It is a Potinara which is a man made genus. It is in what is known as the Cattleya Alliance. You can go to the American Orchid Society web site @ www.aos.org
Once there on the main screen are a series of pull downs at the top of the page. Within are culture sheets for every major group of Orchids. You can download or print one on the Cattleyas. The instructions are wonderful.
Simply: 3-4 hours of early sunlight, afternoon sun is too strong and often too warm. Water the plant well so that water runs out the drainage holes in the bottom of the pot. Depending upon the size of the pot and media in which the plant is growing governs the frequency of water. Generally one day for every inch of pot. A 6" pot gets watered every six days.Repot the plant every 2 years.
Fertilize with an orchid fertilizer once a month at 1/2 strength. Dynamite, available @ Big Box stores is good.
It likes a temperature range of 55 to 85 degrees.
Generally blooms once a year, sometimes twice.
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Delray Beach, Florida
no1bubbe
Oct 29, 2018 6:16 PM CST
Thank you very much for your quick reply to my question. I twas greatly appreciated. I shall go to the AOS page.
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BigBill
Oct 29, 2018 7:27 PM CST
Your welcome!
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Delray Beach, Florida
no1bubbe
Oct 30, 2018 7:42 PM CST
The AOS website was helpful to a point, but living where I do it does not give specific information as to climate playing an important part in care. Our weather here in s/o. F"l. normally stays fairly warm most of the year. We periodically will get a cold spell for a few nights where the temps will drop but warms up during the day. Living in a single story villa without a garage makes it quite difficult to bring them in & out ti protect them from the drop in temps. Right now the plant I have is in the growers plastic pot as I just purchased it at our annual orchid sale the other day and to me it appears to be quite jammed in the container it is in, so I have no idea as to whether it should be put into another pot. On the information sheet from the AOS it does not say when to stop fertilizing or watering as it is in full bloom. I also do not know if you are supposed to cut the dead stem after the bloom has died. None of this info. was available & I tried contacting them and no one answered. No info was available online either. I do not want to lose the beautiful species, and being new to growing orchids I would like to learn all I can about the species, and even went to the library to find a book, but of course what was available did not have anything on this plant.
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BigBill
Oct 30, 2018 7:58 PM CST
They can't possibly list every detail that you would like. That would be impossible. Yours is a hybrid, a complex hybrid. With all of the genes involved due to the many species involved, you can't expect to project specifics.
But with a Cattleya you have to know in general terms what they like. Then knowing through experience what species are more common in their background, you can tweak the culture. The AOS gives you generalities.
You live in Florida and aside from Hawaii and California you have more orchid growers there then any other state. If there is an Orchid Society in your area, you should join. There are Show tables, raffles, programs and knowledable people who are just too happy to share.
Let me put it this way, Orchids are not African violets and violets are not orchids!! But everyone needs to start somewhere. I have been enthralled with orchids for 43 years and I am still learning.
You cut the stem back when it browns.
You water more in the heat, less when it cools.
You fertilize once a month. Too much is no good.
They like 55-85 degrees.
4 hours of sun for a standard, large Cattleya, 2-3 for a compact plant.
Repot every 2 years!
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Delray Beach, Florida
no1bubbe
Oct 30, 2018 8:08 PM CST
I recently joined the Delray Beach Orchid Society and plan on attending the next meeting and will ask some of the members who have been growing orchids for many years some if the questions I have with regard to the orchids I purchased and won in a raffle at our show & sale as I hope to be able to meet their needs and not kill them.

Thank you for taking the time in answering my questions, as I greatly appreciate it.

Suzanne Kihl
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BigBill
Oct 31, 2018 3:36 AM CST
My pleasure!
If you need me, tree mail me. I love to talk Orchids!
Bill
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BigBill
Oct 31, 2018 1:55 PM CST
I got my newest upgrade of the Orchid Wiz downloaded and the name Achung Yo Yo has not been registered as of this moment. If it was I might be able to provide a little more guidance in terms of proper care but I can't do so.
"Little Goldfish" is just a clonal name so that the grower/breeder/vendor can tell it apart from all of the other Achung Yo Yo's they might have!
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Ursula
Oct 31, 2018 3:04 PM CST

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It is misspelled! it should be Ahchung Yoyo.
http://apps.rhs.org.uk/horticu...
I also have seen it otherwise as Ah Chung Yoyo.
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BigBill
Oct 31, 2018 3:08 PM CST
Oh cool. I'll try that later!
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Australis
Oct 31, 2018 6:18 PM CST

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There's an existing database entry for it here: Orchid (Rhyncattleanthe Ahchung Yoyo 'Little Goldfish')
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Name: Bill
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BigBill
Oct 31, 2018 6:27 PM CST
Sweet! That saves me the trouble cause it was one I had never heard of. Now at least I know what color it is.
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Delray Beach, Florida
no1bubbe
Oct 31, 2018 7:39 PM CST
I am so glad that someone who has been involved with plants for so long was stumped and had never heard of the species. Now I do not feel so bad. I also purchased other orchids that I have no idea as to what to do with and put them outside in the early morning east sun & I saw today that apparently they did not like it and some of the leaves look as of they got burnt, although the temps were only in the very low 80's by afternoon. One of the orchids that is blooming has 2 lower leaves that turned yellow which upset me terribly, so I brought all of them in and placed them on a table that is in the east window, but the windows are tinted & they are at the back of the table and will only get the filtered sun mid day. I do not know when they were fertilized, so I only watered them. I am very confused as to watering & fertilizing, as I thought that you don't fertilize when they are dormant, but here in So. Florida it seems that because our weather stays fairly warm, they seems to bloom a good portion of the year.
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BigBill
Oct 31, 2018 7:57 PM CST
As a reminder, your plant is NOT a species. It is a hybrid.
The best analogy I can give you is say you and your husband are "species orchids". You have a baby girl. She is a HYBRID between you and your husband with her having some of her traits inherited from you and some from her father!
In species it is a much easier task to research exactly what it needs in terms of culture. Now when it is a hybrid, that culture prediction becomes harder to ascertain. The more complex the hybrid=the more genes are introduced making predicting exactly what it's exact cultural needs are IMPOSSIBLE.
That is exactly why no one could ever tell you exactly what Pot. Ahchung needs. It is because it is such a blend of different orchids.

When you see proper Orchid Nomenclature such as Cattleya intermedia, the capital "C" designates a genus. The lower case "i" is written that way on purpose. The lower case I designated it as a species.
In a hybrid such as your Pot., Potinara stands for a genus and is therefore capitalized!! Since the second part Ahchung is ALSO capitalized means that it is a HYBRID! If you are going to grow orchids this nomenclature is extremely important. It could mean life and death for a plant.
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Ursula
Oct 31, 2018 7:58 PM CST

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Well, please forgive me for saying this, but it does help to have a correct spelling of this hybrid not to be stumped Smiling

Now I am not growing in a climate like yours, but I could imagine that some protective screen/shade cloth above a small Orchid area might be a good place to start. If I were to live in your area, I would try to take advantage of your climate and grow them outside. We have several Floridians on this forum who do exactly that. Just pop in on our monthly bloom thread, read along and don't hesitate to ask questions.

We overlapped, Bill! 🙂
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Name: Bill
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BigBill
Oct 31, 2018 8:20 PM CST
Great minds do overlap on occasion!
Just remember we are trying to help you as much as we can.
Orchids are like so few other plants on the planet. The names and spelling of these things often become important.
Genus, species, clonal name, HCC, AM, AOS all become confusing.
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Delray Beach, Florida
no1bubbe
Nov 1, 2018 7:22 AM CST
I am so glad to have found your site and all the information you have given me. Eventually I will get species & hybrid correct, if I can remember my name (I am getting older day by day & sometimes I don't even remember my name (LMAO). I really appreciate all of your help.

The area I have to keep the orchids outside is prone to getting flooded with our unexpected downpours, as we do not have leaders & gutters on our buildings. The Vandas do not seem to mind, but I was intending to purchase 2 very large shepherds hooks & also purchasing a thin curtain rod which I would put between the 2 hooks & then hang the orchids from the rod & attach the mesh screening above it & hopefully it will work, although the newest ones I purchased are in pots & so I will have to figure out how to attach a metal hook to them, ( they are fairly small & light).

Now, I still do not know whether or not they get fertilized during the winter (we do not really have a cold winter here in So. Fl. & I keep hearing mixed opinions.
Name: Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
Nov 1, 2018 7:33 AM CST
Check into wire shelving at a place like Home Depot or Lowe's! I love to use it by hanging it from hooks narrow side up which affords me space to hang orchids using a hanging clip. Clips are also readily available. They clip right on to the rim of the pot.
A good supply place is the Green Barn I think it is and OFE International in Miami. You can get anything and everything from those two places.
"Our children are the messages we send to a time that we will never see."
Delray Beach, Florida
no1bubbe
Nov 1, 2018 8:15 AM CST
Green Barn is less than 2000 feet from where I live and yes they do carry everything * they can be quite pricey) and were 1 of the vendors at our show. Miami is way ti much of a trip for me to make (over 1 hour away) just to buy some supplies, I still do not know about fertilizing my orchids throughout the year, as I stated earlier we really do not have cold weather here in So. Fl.although once in a while in Jan. or Feb. we will get a cold spell where at night for a few nights it will go down into the low 40's but then war, up during the day into the high 60's

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