Roses forum: America climbing rose and a single climber, both sick.

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_Bleu_
Nov 22, 2018 4:31 PM CST
The nursery delivered these plants four days ago. I guess I was so delighted to have them and so taken by their beauty that I completely failed to inspect their leaves and stems Rolling my eyes. and it wasn't after putting both in the ground that I actually noticed a couple of things... (I planted 9 big plants that day, that's the only excuse I have D'Oh! ). Also, the single rose was mislabeled as "all ablaze" but it happens to be a coral-pink, not red.

Could you please help me identify what's ailing these two lovely roses. I would like to be able to keep them if I can treat them and bring them back to health.

Here's the America rose:

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And the single rose:

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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Nov 22, 2018 4:55 PM CST
Did America seem rather dry when she arrived? I think that could explain the wilty leaves.
Porkpal
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_Bleu_
Nov 22, 2018 5:03 PM CST
No, neither plant was dry. Actually, their root system looked healthy, not bound at all.

America rose has spots under its leaves, they are also dimpled.

What's on the stem? The stems of both roses look similar. Is that a fungus? Sunburn? A disease? I am rather new to roses (other than the knock-outs I used to grow back in the northeast).
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
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porkpal
Nov 22, 2018 6:51 PM CST
It looked to me like the stems were just growing the "bark" of a more mature plant, but others may offer better suggestions.
Porkpal
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
Nov 22, 2018 10:11 PM CST
I think porkpal is right. I wouldn't be overly concerned. The leaves look a little dry and travel weary and the canes just look like they are maturing.
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_Bleu_
Nov 23, 2018 1:36 AM CST
Thank You! Porkpal and Seil. Smiling I'm glad to hear there's nothing wrong with them.

Now I can concentrate on learning how to care (and prune) climbing roses. These two are my very first ones.
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
porkpal
Nov 23, 2018 6:58 AM CST
Ah, the beginning of a beautiful new addiction!
Porkpal
Β SoCal - Sunset zone 23β˜€οΈ (Zone 10a)
Region: California Adeniums Hummingbirder Dragonflies Butterflies Cactus and Succulents
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_Bleu_
Nov 23, 2018 1:28 PM CST
Oh, dear... I'm in trouble. Big Grin
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
porkpal
Nov 23, 2018 2:00 PM CST
And we are great enablers.
Porkpal
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Nov 23, 2018 7:31 PM CST
Before you know it, you'll be dazzling us all with wonderful pictures of your climbing roses. Smiling Although it will take a while for them to reach their full potential.
Β SoCal - Sunset zone 23β˜€οΈ (Zone 10a)
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_Bleu_
Nov 23, 2018 8:02 PM CST
Carol, I will try my best to help them reach their full potential where I had to place them, which may not be the ideal spot for them but the only one available. Hopefully, they'll get enough hours of sun in the spring and summer. I know they are not getting more than two hours of afternoon sun now so we'll see what develops. Crossing Fingers!
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Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Nov 24, 2018 3:20 PM CST
2 hours of sun is -- let's say, less than minimal. But you do what you can do.

Your plants look fine, for roses that have suffered for months in 5-Gal. pots. Being in the ground should be a real relief to them.
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vaporvac
Nov 24, 2018 5:22 PM CST
If roses get full sun in the summer months and part sun in spring and fall, does it matter if they're shaded in the winter? Here they would be dormant. I've often wondered about this.

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