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ZH
Nov 23, 2018 12:04 AM CST
Hi guys
I'm living in Singapore where temperature is ard 30 degrees in the afternoon, n 26 degrees at night. I got 2 potted rose plant to keep in my living room last week but I'm not sure why it's wilting. Originally I tot it is cuz of inadequate sunlight as originally it didn't have full sunlight, just partial. Or I tot it might be over watering cuz the leaves that are yellow feels moist to touch (and yellow leaves r only at the base of plants). But then even after not watering for 2 days, and putting the plant at the window, the plant condition seem to get worse, n now the yellowing of leaves have spread to the top of the plant and most off the stalks near the roses is dry, hard n brown. Can someone please advice, thank you so much. The yellow leaves r still soft n moist to touch. So I'm very confuse if it's over watering or under watering. Also, I usually water until the water start leaving from the bottom of the pot where I then empty the saucer. (I pour the water slowly directly to the soil using a tiny water bottle)
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Nov 23, 2018 2:00 AM CST

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ZH
Nov 23, 2018 2:10 AM CST
Hi
Oh, I suspected that too originally. I'm new to owning plants but the guy at the nursery where I got the plants told me that Rose can live well indoors>< guess he is wrong. So is my rose wilting cuz of insufficient sunlight? N is there anything I can do abt it other than putting it outside cuz it's kinda a problem for where I live...
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_Bleu_
Nov 23, 2018 3:07 AM CST
ZH, I would cut all the spent blooms and pass both plants on to a friend or relative who can keep them outside; they need direct sunlight and good air circulation.

Also, it would be a good idea to repot them (and check that the roots are healthy). Maybe the nursery person was just eager to sell you the plants and told you what you wanted to hear, that happens.

Rose plants are bushes. If you put them in the ground, in a suitable location, they will grow to their full potential. If you keep them indoors they will show you pretty quickly that they are not happy, as you are witnessing now.

There are many indoor plants that would thrive on that spot in your living room.

Take care. Smiling
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ZH
Nov 23, 2018 6:00 AM CST
Hi thank you so much for your reply. Haiz I only got the roses instead of other plants cuz the guy told me roses is easy to care for indoors along with some other flowers he said n now I dunno which is true :(
Just wondering is there any suitable flowering plants that can be placed at that spot? Will orchid be fine? Cuz I prefer flowering plants.
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_Bleu_
Nov 23, 2018 1:26 PM CST
You are welcome!

Orchids would do very well if they get a lot of bright light. My orchids have been flowering for many months near a window where they get two hours of direct sun early in the morning (when the sun is weak). There is a very nice forum here for orchids where you can learn a lot about those great plants.

If your window area gets afternoon sun, then you could try a dwarf citrus. They are beautiful plants and you get to see the flowering and fruiting cycle, which lasts for months.

Or, you could add to your succulent collection Smiling and buy a few medium-size succulents in nice ceramic pots. Put saucers under their pots and follow the water recommendation on their labels.

Just remember this very important thing: it is easier to kill plants by overwatering than buy underwatering them. My orchids are very happy with a weekly watering. Some only need water every 10 days. Succulents can go several days without water.
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Nov 23, 2018 1:29 PM CST
Listen to bleu, roses are not house plants. You need to cut off anything that looks dead, dried or shriveled. Repot them in a larger pot with good potting soil and get them outside in full sunlight. Keep them moist but not soggy wet. Depending on your temps most roses do not need to be watered everyday. A deep soaking once a week is better than a dribble of water every day. In really hot,dry climates you may need to water more often. If the surface of the soilis still damp you probably don't need to water them.
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ZH
Nov 23, 2018 10:45 PM CST
Hi btw I'm wondering if my potted rose were to be place outdoor, do I need to bring it in when it rains? Cuz if rains quite heavily here in Singapore where it rains almost everyday whole year round n everyday now since its the rainy season.
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Nov 23, 2018 11:02 PM CST
I don't know how the rains would affect it but you have to make sure whatever pot you put it in has very good drainage. And DO NOT put it in a tray. The rose needs to drain freely. All a tray does is hold the water against the roots and they will rot. Roses do not like to sit in standing water. You can put the pot up on something so it's not sitting on the ground but make sure the drainage holes are clear so they can drain easily. Maybe look for a place where it will get full sun but is partially sheltered from the rain? I have a couple of spots under my eaves where the sun gets in but not so much the rain.
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Nov 24, 2018 2:58 AM CST
Hi btw just wondering y is there so mnay articles online that says roses can grow well indoors too:/
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Nov 24, 2018 8:12 AM CST
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Good morning,
Must agree with Bleu & Seil. Roses love to be in the ground. A nurse once brought home a potted miniature rose the patient nor family wanted and it appeared to need as much care as her patient so rather than giving up I planted it outside just to get it in ground. Amazing, after that each spring I saw the little plant seem to get new life and flourish.
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_Bleu_
Nov 24, 2018 6:48 PM CST
ZH, believe what people with many years of experience growing roses have told you here and take what you read from plant sellers with a grain of salt (the screenshot you posted came from a plant seller).

It is pretty obvious that your roses do not like their current conditions. If you want to bring them back to health you'll have to change those conditions.
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ZH
Nov 25, 2018 1:45 AM CST
Hi thank you everyone for your replies. I'm considering of getting potted plants again but I am scared of this happening agn. Does anyone have any recommendations for beautiful indoor flowering plants (vibrant colors) that can do well in livng rooms conditions (preferred) or sunlight through window at the spot I placed the roses. I went to read some up online tho I am not sure which article can be trusted alr:/
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Nov 25, 2018 9:52 AM CST

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Plumeriagirl
Dec 9, 2018 9:10 AM CST
ZH,
I am also from Singapore. Roses need sun. I totally agree with the above Rosarians. Also do not put a tray underneath. Seil is absolutely right.
I would give away that rose unless you have a corridor where it can receive sunlight for at least 6 hours.
I don't know how many roses died on me in Singapore. We used to put potted roses on platforms outside the window which used to be about 4 ft stretch out but those laws been changed.
The article you put there do not specify but I think they are referring to houses like bungalows that has open courtyard in the middle. Or even a sunroom which has windows all around so it catches sun from East to West.That' s the only thing I can think of.
ZH, do not give up ! One day you will grow them but not in high rise building unless you have a rooftop terrace.
Orchids are best choice. My dad grew so many orchids. I just wish I learned more from him.
Please do not give up . One day you will grow beautiful roses and you Will. Smiling
The seller do not know much. They are just trying to sell to make profit.
I am the only member of my family started to grow roses. I am so glad that I never gave up . I received great advise, encouragement, support from Rosarians on forum. Without them, I would have never grown beautiful roses. I am still learning. So, pls don't give up. If I can do it so can you ! THE Day Will Come then you will have a ROSE FEVER Hurray! ..lol !


P.S Your article about artificial lighting is totally another topic . I would not try that . You have sun all year round which is the best.

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Dec 10, 2018 12:28 AM CST
Hi plumeriagirl
Thank you for your advice. Haha I do love the appearance of roses tho I'm honestly okay with other flowers as well. Hahaha I just decided to chose roses cuz I ask the man if it is hard to grow indoors cuz I heard alot abt it, n he say no its very easy, so I'm like why not then haha. I honestly would have picked another flower if I knew it's not suitable to grow indoors:( the man honestly shld have just be Frank cuz I went with the intention to get a flower to grow indoors anw, so I would still buy from him even if he suggest another more suitable flower. Anw I threw my rose plants alr, will orchids do well at the spot I showed in the picture? I have seen other flowers at the nursery too like betunia, monalisa etc, honestly I dun mind any of them, I just want a vibrant flowering plant which I can water n nurture n watch it bloom hahaha. I shifted the rose to a position with outdoor sunlight earlier after the advise, but I guess it was too late alr, some of the stems had turned brown right to the bottom alr, n the remaining I just cut them away with scissors hoping it will get better. (which it seem to did for a week, but suddenly few days later when I visit it to water agn it was infested with what I believe is spider mites, so I had no choice to throw them away.
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Dec 10, 2018 12:43 AM CST

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Hi does anyone know why is my blue succulent plant's stem turning white at the bottom half? Isit not receiving enuf water, cuz I understand that succulents' soil r meant to be constantly dry, n I have not watered it for the past 3weeks.
Also, does anyone know why is there what appears like an wooden stick being attached to the base of my red succulent plant, cuz Im wondering how does it take in water in the absence of roots, and the base of the stem isn't submerged in the soil too.
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_Bleu_
Dec 10, 2018 1:23 AM CST
ZH,

No, their soil is not supposed to stay constantly dry at all. Succulents need water but they don't like soggy soil. You must water them regularly; when their soil feels dry you have to water the plants well and allow the soil to drain well. Do not place saucers under their pots.

The succulent with the wooden stick will die in those conditions. It looks as if some of the soil has been knocked off the pot. The plant, as it is, has no chance of rooting. I don't know if it is too late already but you could try adding some succulent soil to the pot. Water the soil and let it drain well and see what happens. Water again when the soil is dry (the pot will feel very light when you hold it).

For help from succulent experts, you may want to post those photos to the Cactus and Succulents forum: https://garden.org/forums/view...
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Dec 10, 2018 8:38 AM CST
Hi bleu,
Thank you for you advice. I will water them now. Do u know why is there a wooden stick at the base n if I can cut the stick shorter or something n place it in the soil?
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_Bleu_
Dec 10, 2018 12:59 PM CST
Since that plant is top heavy and the pot is very tiny, it would seem as if the stick was used to support it.

Succulents need to develop a callous before they can be placed on soil to root. I don't know that particular kind of succulent, I mean, I've seen it but I don't know if it is possible to take cuttings from a larger plant like you would from, say, an aeonium, but if it is a cutting, it might still root if given a chance.

Add soil so that it barely touches the stem, you don't want to bury the stem. A little humidity, the right amount of light and a bit of patience may just do it. Smiling

If you don't have access to succulent potting soil then you could try cutting the stick a bit shorter, yes, but if the plant survives and starts to root it eventually would need a bit more soil than what it has now.

For more help do post to the succulent forum.

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